I AM 2 pointing like Mad!

cigi · Thu Mar 12 2009, 12:25pm

Hey guys! I have stuff going with ME & 2 pointing that's really neat right now.

I've been 2 pointing like crazy & having so much fun with it. Friday night, I was at a cook out with a few friends & I was telling 1 about ME & she asked me to 2 point her. So I did. Her whole body starts twisting counter-clockwise & she's like, "OMG! I am so NOT doing that!" & we all laughed about it.

Then everybody else was all, "Do me!" So I did. The cool thing was I could clearly "see" where everyone's physical issues were. One person had like a "ribbon" of pain I could see, I pinpointed the location of an old surgery on him & another person. Everyone was amazed about the involuntary torsional movements they had.

Then, last night a couple came over and asked me to do it again. (Apparently it feels really good!) So I did & we talked about what they were feeling when I did it. They both felt a strange, energetic sensation at my first sticky point & a polarity with the second. There was a difference this time in that the energy was linear. Both people involuntarily fell backwards on to me.

We discussed it & came to the conclusion that the different energy patterns must be coming from me & not them. Both times everyone has experienced the same *shape*(?) of energy. Torsional on Friday, Linear last night.

I don't have any goals when I do a 2 point, except just to see what happens. I don't really have an understanding of what I'm doing enough to aim for an outcome & I surely don't quite know what to make of all this yet.

In the meantime - it sure is interesting!

cigi · Thu Mar 12 2009, 3:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by imagine.love

plus, i feel more open and that my psychicness is more open as well -

Me too. That's a pretty cool side-affect, I gotta say!

cigi · Thu Mar 12 2009, 4:08pm

Well, Sierra - I wasn't sure if I was gonna tell that part yet, but I guess the cat's outta the bag now!

This is all SO COOL! I really can't wait to see what continues to unfold.

River · Thu Mar 12 2009, 5:12pm

I am doing it too, and on myself so far. I am coming up with some interesting ways of using it, like two pointing for physical then for emotional well being and integrating the two. Then I imagine a reset button on my arm to use to instantly restore well being if needed and it works quite well.

I took the idea of counting backwards in time to time traveling to an earlier time in the day (count down from now by hours to when I was doing well earlier in the day). I like that, and am getting a sense of the line between and becoming nothing. It feels really good and I am using it with LOA with what I have been wanting, allowing those parallel worlds to exist.

I imagine electrons learning to orbit in a new way and I feel the "wave," as a vibrations that feel good. I am approaching it playfully and am so excited about this! Thanks for turning us onto it, Cigi.

Shannon

Monica · Thu Mar 12 2009, 7:22pm

I love hearing your experiences and stories. I just started reading the book. I am looking forward to trying it out for myself

cigi · Fri Mar 13 2009, 8:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by 11:11

2 POINTING - is that a basketball term?

Yes, 11:11. Didn't you know? Your forum is now all about sports for tall people.

Shannon, the reset button is a great idea!! Oh & Sierra deserves the credit for introducing us to this subject.

I do want to readdress something here. With the exception of my son's injury, I'm playing around with this, I do NOT have an agenda. YET. I'm just sort of trying to understand the mechanics of it, how it works for me, what feels right, etc. The reactions I'm getting from my beautifully allowing friends are awesome, but I'm not trying to fix anything or change anything.

I have also had some strange reactions from 2 pointing myself, but honestly - I don't know what to make of it all. Yesterday, I 2 pointed myself & after my right cheek started tingling (like when your foot falls asleep), then the right half of the room got very fuzzy & started blinking (like bad tv reception.) After that, my right shoulder got this burning sensation & magnetic energy started flowing through my right hand (almost as if the energy was exiting there).

BUT!!! Here's the thing: I am not willing to just accept all this at face value quite yet. I'm trying to remain a little detached & analytical. I know that's the opposite of what is recommended, but it's my style nonetheless.

As for the incident with Sierra & my "remote viewing" - that was a dream. I "saw" an event that she was attending & could hear what was being said. I very carefully approached that subject with her to get confirmation that it did, in fact, happen. That is not an isolated incident though. I've been playing around with energetic exchanges for quite some time. I do believe ME is helping me to tear down some walls that I had put into place a long time ago.

Most importantly for me, all this information is coming into my life in perfect order. I wake up a little more each day to my own potential & creative abilities.

Like I said before, I can't wait to see what happens next!

Tai · Fri Mar 13 2009, 3:20pm

I'm not sure what the 2 point thing is, is there any place where there is a short explanation about what it is and how you do it? Or can some of you tell? I know there's the long ME topic, but I don't wanna search through the whole thing...

Deva · Fri Mar 13 2009, 4:50pm

Yes thank you, what is two pointing?

Dance of Joy · Fri Mar 13 2009, 5:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shari

Yes thank you, what is two pointing?

http://abetalk.com/showthread.php?t=...rix+energetics

Deva · Fri Mar 13 2009, 5:17pm

Christine, I read a bit of that thread.. but its a bit heady for me & i still dont know what two pointing is

Thanks tho'

River · Fri Mar 13 2009, 5:37pm

Okay Shari and Tai: Two Pointing is the technique describe in Matrix Energetics (aka ME) that transforms. You feel a spot that is sore/hard and then touch another spot at the same time Both points soften. This is two pointing. You have an intention with your two points, and it is well being of some sort such as to physically feel better or emotionally feel better, or abundance or something else. Often it is healing a bodypart, and the inventor doesn't like healing he likes transformation. And it can be done on yourself or another. Then you connect the two points as a line and then you just exist, be, hang out, becoming nothing which gets you out of the way. You are made of photons and light so it gives these quantum particles a chance to vibrate in a new way, new probabilities arise with your intention. Instant transformation is possible. You feel wavery, a shifting of energy and sometimes it makes pain go completely away (yes I have done this on myself). You do it playfully. You may bring in archetypes that appear in you mind and help with the healing like Wonder Woman for example. You may go back in time, and facilitate that by counting backwards to before a given event so you are allowing the particles of your body to vibrate with well being again and forget trauma or an event if there was one. There is a little more to it than this but it is simple stuff that anyone can do. And it isn't just instantly healing that is cool, it is the possibility to transform anything in your life, and maybe another's when it works, all for the good with your intention. It also helps you think outside the box and be very playful the more you use it. Hope that explains it in a way that does justice to what it is.

Shannon

yeslist · Fri Mar 13 2009, 7:44pm

Opening the gateway to a vortex that allows well being(scaler energy...my thought) to dominate, in a resistance free environment.
When I meditate I release resistance but becuse I am focusing on breathing or a sound or whatever as a point of reference, My ability to create is reduced . M.E. Appears to activate this energy's vortex so that a realignment of photons can occur thus actively creating a change in the denser /compressed physical vibrations between the two points of reference.
But what do I know?

Tai · Sat Mar 14 2009, 5:50am

Shannon, thanks for explaining it to us. So if I understand correctly, let's say I have pain in my nose, I touch my nose with one hand and my arm or something else with the other hand, and then connect the two? Is that right or do I still don't get it?
Love

cigi · Sat Mar 14 2009, 11:49am

I love Shannon & Simon's explanation of what 2 pointing is. My take is a tiny bit different, as I am becoming quite a quantum physics nerd!

I use the "Observer Effect." Like Shannon said, we are made up of particles. Quantum theory states that particles behave as a wave when unobserved - meaning they move in a radiating pattern. Once you observe them however, the behave as a particle - moving in a linear fashion.

I think 2 pointing is using the Observer Effect to make a particle behave as a particle. That's why you form a line with the 2 points. It make sense to me because I can easily see how pain or dis-ease would be a "wave". So, if I draw a linear polarity & observe, I'm forcing that wave to collapse and become a strait line. It can't continue to cause discomfort if it can't act like a wave.

Does that make any sense at all?

*********

Oh - as an update of sorts I did another 2 pointing round on my friends last night. It was hilarious & everyone is all "Whoa!" & made lots of jokes about me & my voodoo. Of course, they all wanted me to do it on them.

The most impressive part was, there was 1 guy there whose shoulders were uneven. One was fully a half-inch or so higher than the other & I mentioned it & everyone who was watching could see it. I 2 pointed him several times & got nothing. Frustrated, I told him he should see a chiropractor.

Later on in the evening, I decided to try again. This time it was like, BAM! I could tell I totally nailed it! He started swaying back & forth & was like, "Wow! I feel it now!" So I was all pleased with myself for getting a reaction out of him. A few minutes later, we were all talking & I looked at him & was like "OMG! Your shoulders are strait!" The best part was everyone who had seen his shoulders before could see that they were now corrected - even him. It was very cool & all my friends are wanting me to get certified & start practicing professionally!

Nightprincessa · Sat Mar 14 2009, 12:49pm

Cigi babe, you effing rock!

I wanna do this professionally too, and I know I can do it!!! Hell ya!!!

Love uuu!!!

New Dawn Rising · Sat Mar 14 2009, 3:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by cigi

It was very cool & all my friends are wanting me to get certified & start practicing professionally!

Wow cigi. You are a natural with this... sounds like the "next logical step" is for you to take workshops and get yourself certified. Go cigi!

As for me - I'm playing around with this too. Not alot - and I haven't tried it on others - just myself. But I'm having some good results!

One thing I think is so interesting is when I get the "right" two-points I can definitely FEEL a connection. I "see" it kind of. But I mostly "feel" it - it is tangible to me. Like I'm holding a tense string between the two points. Trippy.

New Dawn Rising · Sat Mar 14 2009, 3:18pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightprincessa

I wanna do this professionally too, and I know I can do it!!! Hell ya!!!

Hey Sweetie! I don't remember reading any of your ME posts before. Maybe I just missed them. Are you playing around with it? How's it going? I'd love to hear your ME stories too. I love reading cigi's stories - they are fun and encouraging.

You are one "connected" princess. If you wanna do ME professionally I'm sure you'll be wonderful at it.

I'd like to take a workshop or two with the ME people. The upcoming ones are in Phoenix and Seattle. But I see that they visit San Francisco from time to time. So in my vibrational escrow is an ME Workshop Levels 1 & 2 in San Francisco soon. See you there!

yeslist · Sat Mar 14 2009, 3:47pm

Hi Cigi
I agree about the observer effect.
Interesting thought I had in relationship to this effect......if there is more than one observer simultaneously focusing on a subject from their own perspective there must be a quantum effect on the subject focused upon. remember that old stury from Jesus' teachings about prayer" if two or more are gathered together in my name (take that as whatever it means to you) the effect of the prayer is greater.
look at stuff where lots of folks focus on a subject simultaneously. 6 o'clock news rock concerts...demonstrations...etc...whatever.....
when you have a captive audience the power of suggestion is quantumized to excite the collective imagination of those focusing. when you are two pointing within a focusing group the power of the focus is intensified and therefore effects the outcome in a more potent way.
I do a demonstration with magnets that defies logic and makes the brain shift the feeling of well being from the observer and attaches it to the power the magnets. it is all just hypnotic suggestion ...but that is what we do to our selves through the power of our imagination all the time.....it is called perception....interesting stuff!

cigi · Sun Mar 15 2009, 11:10am

New Dawn, that's EXACTLY it! That's "collapsing the wave." For me, it is much like a string that has a distinctive magnetic property.

Tik, you can SO do this.

I am setting my intention to become certified in Seattle in June. I don't even know what I'll do with this, but for me it is a "must do." (My IB's in the driver's seat on this one & she's persistent as hell when she wants to do something.) I can't wait to hang out with Bethie & her buddy, Rich!

Simon, the "audience" probably wasn't exactly how you imagine it, but I do agree about a group focusing energy. All I can tell you is, I've had the same results in a group or 1 on 1.

Nightprincessa · Sun Mar 15 2009, 2:27pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by New Dawn Rising

Hey Sweetie! I don't remember reading any of your ME posts before. Maybe I just missed them. Are you playing around with it? How's it going? I'd love to hear your ME stories too. I love reading cigi's stories - they are fun and encouraging.

You are one "connected" princess. If you wanna do ME professionally I'm sure you'll be wonderful at it.

I'd like to take a workshop or two with the ME people. The upcoming ones are in Phoenix and Seattle. But I see that they visit San Francisco from time to time. So in my vibrational escrow is an ME Workshop Levels 1 & 2 in San Francisco soon. See you there!

Hi NDR!

I am just playing around with it right now, kinda getting the feel for it. But I want to and know that I will become good at it!... hmmmm let me rephrase that... I AM good at it!

hehe

Yup, it would be wonderful to go to one of the workshops in the city... so yesss, see you there!

Thu Mar 12 2009, 12:25pm	#1 (permalink)
cigi Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: just east of Brimstone Posts: 2,398	I AM 2 pointing like Mad! Hey guys! I have stuff going with ME & 2 pointing that's really neat right now. I've been 2 pointing like crazy & having so much fun with it. Friday night, I was at a cook out with a few friends & I was telling 1 about ME & she asked me to 2 point her. So I did. Her whole body starts twisting counter-clockwise & she's like, "OMG! I am so NOT doing that!" & we all laughed about it. Then everybody else was all, "Do me!" So I did. The cool thing was I could clearly "see" where everyone's physical issues were. One person had like a "ribbon" of pain I could see, I pinpointed the location of an old surgery on him & another person. Everyone was amazed about the involuntary torsional movements they had. Then, last night a couple came over and asked me to do it again. (Apparently it feels really good!) So I did & we talked about what they were feeling when I did it. They both felt a strange, energetic sensation at my first sticky point & a polarity with the second. There was a difference this time in that the energy was linear. Both people involuntarily fell backwards on to me. We discussed it & came to the conclusion that the different energy patterns must be coming from me & not them. Both times everyone has experienced the same shape(?) of energy. Torsional on Friday, Linear last night. I don't have any goals when I do a 2 point, except just to see what happens. I don't really have an understanding of what I'm doing enough to aim for an outcome & I surely don't quite know what to make of all this yet. In the meantime - it sure is interesting!

Thu Mar 12 2009, 5:12pm	#4 (permalink)
River Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: Boston Posts: 973	I am doing it too, and on myself so far. I am coming up with some interesting ways of using it, like two pointing for physical then for emotional well being and integrating the two. Then I imagine a reset button on my arm to use to instantly restore well being if needed and it works quite well. I took the idea of counting backwards in time to time traveling to an earlier time in the day (count down from now by hours to when I was doing well earlier in the day). I like that, and am getting a sense of the line between and becoming nothing. It feels really good and I am using it with LOA with what I have been wanting, allowing those parallel worlds to exist. I imagine electrons learning to orbit in a new way and I feel the "wave," as a vibrations that feel good. I am approaching it playfully and am so excited about this! Thanks for turning us onto it, Cigi. Shannon Everything around you is you.

Fri Mar 13 2009, 3:20pm	#7 (permalink)
Tai Join Date: 2008 Jun Posts: 1,689	I'm not sure what the 2 point thing is, is there any place where there is a short explanation about what it is and how you do it? Or can some of you tell? I know there's the long ME topic, but I don't wanna search through the whole thing... Funniest song ever

Fri Mar 13 2009, 5:37pm	#11 (permalink)
River Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: Boston Posts: 973	Okay Shari and Tai: Two Pointing is the technique describe in Matrix Energetics (aka ME) that transforms. You feel a spot that is sore/hard and then touch another spot at the same time Both points soften. This is two pointing. You have an intention with your two points, and it is well being of some sort such as to physically feel better or emotionally feel better, or abundance or something else. Often it is healing a bodypart, and the inventor doesn't like healing he likes transformation. And it can be done on yourself or another. Then you connect the two points as a line and then you just exist, be, hang out, becoming nothing which gets you out of the way. You are made of photons and light so it gives these quantum particles a chance to vibrate in a new way, new probabilities arise with your intention. Instant transformation is possible. You feel wavery, a shifting of energy and sometimes it makes pain go completely away (yes I have done this on myself). You do it playfully. You may bring in archetypes that appear in you mind and help with the healing like Wonder Woman for example. You may go back in time, and facilitate that by counting backwards to before a given event so you are allowing the particles of your body to vibrate with well being again and forget trauma or an event if there was one. There is a little more to it than this but it is simple stuff that anyone can do. And it isn't just instantly healing that is cool, it is the possibility to transform anything in your life, and maybe another's when it works, all for the good with your intention. It also helps you think outside the box and be very playful the more you use it. Hope that explains it in a way that does justice to what it is. Shannon Everything around you is you.

Sat Mar 14 2009, 5:50am	#13 (permalink)
Tai Join Date: 2008 Jun Posts: 1,689	Shannon, thanks for explaining it to us. So if I understand correctly, let's say I have pain in my nose, I touch my nose with one hand and my arm or something else with the other hand, and then connect the two? Is that right or do I still don't get it? Love Funniest song ever

Thu Mar 12 2009, 4:08pm	#3 (permalink)
cigi Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: just east of Brimstone Posts: 2,398	Well, Sierra - I wasn't sure if I was gonna tell that part yet, but I guess the cat's outta the bag now! This is all SO COOL! I really can't wait to see what continues to unfold.

Thu Mar 12 2009, 7:22pm	#5 (permalink)
Monica Join Date: 2008 Jul Posts: 35	I love hearing your experiences and stories. I just started reading the book. I am looking forward to trying it out for myself

Fri Mar 13 2009, 4:50pm	#8 (permalink)
Deva Join Date: 2008 May Location: Trinidad Posts: 4,012	Yes thank you, what is two pointing?

Fri Mar 13 2009, 5:17pm	#10 (permalink)
Deva Join Date: 2008 May Location: Trinidad Posts: 4,012	Christine, I read a bit of that thread.. but its a bit heady for me & i still dont know what two pointing is Thanks tho'

Fri Mar 13 2009, 7:44pm	#12 (permalink)
yeslist Join Date: 2008 Mar Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,141	Opening the gateway to a vortex that allows well being(scaler energy...my thought) to dominate, in a resistance free environment. When I meditate I release resistance but becuse I am focusing on breathing or a sound or whatever as a point of reference, My ability to create is reduced . M.E. Appears to activate this energy's vortex so that a realignment of photons can occur thus actively creating a change in the denser /compressed physical vibrations between the two points of reference. But what do I know?

Sat Mar 14 2009, 11:49am	#14 (permalink)
cigi Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: just east of Brimstone Posts: 2,398	I love Shannon & Simon's explanation of what 2 pointing is. My take is a tiny bit different, as I am becoming quite a quantum physics nerd! I use the "Observer Effect." Like Shannon said, we are made up of particles. Quantum theory states that particles behave as a wave when unobserved - meaning they move in a radiating pattern. Once you observe them however, the behave as a particle - moving in a linear fashion. I think 2 pointing is using the Observer Effect to make a particle behave as a particle. That's why you form a line with the 2 points. It make sense to me because I can easily see how pain or dis-ease would be a "wave". So, if I draw a linear polarity & observe, I'm forcing that wave to collapse and become a strait line. It can't continue to cause discomfort if it can't act like a wave. Does that make any sense at all? ********* Oh - as an update of sorts I did another 2 pointing round on my friends last night. It was hilarious & everyone is all "Whoa!" & made lots of jokes about me & my voodoo. Of course, they all wanted me to do it on them. The most impressive part was, there was 1 guy there whose shoulders were uneven. One was fully a half-inch or so higher than the other & I mentioned it & everyone who was watching could see it. I 2 pointed him several times & got nothing. Frustrated, I told him he should see a chiropractor. Later on in the evening, I decided to try again. This time it was like, BAM! I could tell I totally nailed it! He started swaying back & forth & was like, "Wow! I feel it now!" So I was all pleased with myself for getting a reaction out of him. A few minutes later, we were all talking & I looked at him & was like "OMG! Your shoulders are strait!" The best part was everyone who had seen his shoulders before could see that they were now corrected - even him. It was very cool & all my friends are wanting me to get certified & start practicing professionally!

Sat Mar 14 2009, 12:49pm	#15 (permalink)
Nightprincessa Join Date: 2008 Mar Location: SF Bay Area, USA Posts: 1,550	Cigi babe, you effing rock! I wanna do this professionally too, and I know I can do it!!! Hell ya!!! Love uuu!!!

Sat Mar 14 2009, 3:47pm	#18 (permalink)
yeslist Join Date: 2008 Mar Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 1,141	Hi Cigi I agree about the observer effect. Interesting thought I had in relationship to this effect......if there is more than one observer simultaneously focusing on a subject from their own perspective there must be a quantum effect on the subject focused upon. remember that old stury from Jesus' teachings about prayer" if two or more are gathered together in my name (take that as whatever it means to you) the effect of the prayer is greater. look at stuff where lots of folks focus on a subject simultaneously. 6 o'clock news rock concerts...demonstrations...etc...whatever..... when you have a captive audience the power of suggestion is quantumized to excite the collective imagination of those focusing. when you are two pointing within a focusing group the power of the focus is intensified and therefore effects the outcome in a more potent way. I do a demonstration with magnets that defies logic and makes the brain shift the feeling of well being from the observer and attaches it to the power the magnets. it is all just hypnotic suggestion ...but that is what we do to our selves through the power of our imagination all the time.....it is called perception....interesting stuff!

Sun Mar 15 2009, 11:10am	#19 (permalink)
cigi Join Date: 2008 Apr Location: just east of Brimstone Posts: 2,398	New Dawn, that's EXACTLY it! That's "collapsing the wave." For me, it is much like a string that has a distinctive magnetic property. Tik, you can SO do this. I am setting my intention to become certified in Seattle in June. I don't even know what I'll do with this, but for me it is a "must do." (My IB's in the driver's seat on this one & she's persistent as hell when she wants to do something.) I can't wait to hang out with Bethie & her buddy, Rich! Simon, the "audience" probably wasn't exactly how you imagine it, but I do agree about a group focusing energy. All I can tell you is, I've had the same results in a group or 1 on 1.

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