On Sleep and the value of Dreams

[Osho Rewa]

Stefanie posted this quote from Seth on Atlantis. I've been wanting to experiment with my sleep and now I am inspired to start. Starting today I'm going on a sleep plan of four hours as the main block, and whatever more I feel like in the day. Right now I sleep about 7-8 hours in the night. I anticipate steadily reducing my sleep requirement to two blocks of two hours each, and I'll keep you all updated through this thread. I also intend to remember my dreams and keep a log of it on my private blog.

Do post any quotes you have from Abraham, Bashar and other teachers on this. I once read Abraham recommend two two hour blocks for sleep.

Love,
Osho

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Some of you will be able to do so, however, and those of you who are really interested in this endeavor can at least achieve some variation, on occasion, that will allow you to connect your sleeping and waking activities with far greater effectiveness. (p. 259)

I suggest a six-hour sleeping block of time at one session, and no more. If you still feel the need for a greater amount of rest, then a two-hour-at-the-ost nap can be added.
Many will find that a five-hour steady sleeping period is quite sufficient, with a nap as required. A four-hour block is ideal, however, reinforced by whatever nap feels natural. (p. 260)

There is a give-and-take chemical reaction, or rather chemical rhythms of reactions, that are far more effective in the shorter sleep periods. (p. 260)

Such a change in your waking and sleeping patterns very nicely helps cut through your habitual ways of looking at the nature of your own personal world, and so alters your conception of reality in general.
To some extent, there is natural and spontaneous merging of what you would think of as conscious and unconscious activity. (p. 261)

With your habits the body is literally starved for long periods at night, then often overfed during the day. Important therapeutic information that is given in dreams, and meant to be recalled, is not remembered because your sleep habits plunge you into what you think of as unconsciousness far too long. The body itself can be physically refreshed and rested in much less than eight hours, and after five hours the muscles themselves yearn for activity. This need is also a signal to awaken so that unconscious material and dream information can be consciously assimilated. (p. 263)

Neurosis and psychosis simply would not occur under such conditions. (p. 263)

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Seth, The Nature of Personal Reality

[Osho Rewa]

Donald Trump sleeps for three hours a day (from the book Why We Want you to be Rich)

Subrato Roy an India business leader of the Sahara group sleeps four hours a day

[Osho Rewa]

Essassani people don't sleep anymore

From Bashar, A Matter of Faith
YouTube- Broadcast Yourself.

[aurorainskye]

OK, I'm going to try and reply to this before the need to assist in baling hay calls me. Farming in the summer is nonstop!

I sleep 9 or 10 hours a day. I always have. I have found reasons to feel guilty about it. I have found passages that tell me how to lessen it. I have been jealous of people who need much less. Now I've made peace with it. I have journals of messages from dreams. I visit long dead relatives. It feels like we've had Sunday lunch together. I have made life altering decisions based on them. Sleep and dreams are my friends.

Since we have eternity, why do we need to sleep less? I know people who exist on very little sleep and their energy disturbs me. After I'm with them for any length of time, I feel like I need a nap!

I salute those who have found the way to be happy with less sleep. I'm happy with more!

sweetdreams,
aurora

[LeapingDolphin]

I've heard it said that sleeping more is a better thing to do if one is trying to reduce their weight. I have "Sleep 6 hours+" on my columnar pad as something I wish to do in order to reduce weight. To me, I have considered this as basic as drinking 8 glasses of water a day. I mean maybe it is just propaganda. Maybe I am listening to the wrong people. But I also hear that shift workers, who sleep during the daytime, tend to have higher rates of certain illnesses than night-sleepers.

My body (or IB) tells me, it doesn't like it as much when I work night shifts. When I went into meditation and asked my body what it wanted me to do, it said, "I don't like working night shifts" lol My body also likes it when I spend some time outdoors every day, it likes being in nature, and natural sunshine,

So are these other sleeping patterns supposed to increase the amount of dream time?

[New Dawn Rising]

I suggest a six-hour sleeping block of time at one session, and no more. If you still feel the need for a greater amount of rest, then a two-hour-at-the-ost nap can be added.
Many will find that a five-hour steady sleeping period is quite sufficient, with a nap as required. A four-hour block is ideal, however, reinforced by whatever nap feels natural. (p. 260)
This information is very interesting. For the past several years I have settled into a sleeping pattern where 2-3 times a week I will wake up after 5-1/2 hours of sleep. It is like clockwork. I will be sleeping soundly and then all of a sudden I'm awake and alert and I look at the clock and it is usually exactly 5-1/2 hours after I went to sleep.

Wierd huh? I was thinking it was a bad thing... but maybe it is a good thing?

I'll be interested to see how it goes for you Osho.

[Osho Rewa]

Being awake is much more exciting for me!



That's why I'm doing it too Alex - being awake is so exciting, so much in my life to be savored.

So far two days of waking up after two, and four hours of sleep and then lying right back to sleep some more. All the statistics of sleep deprivation come from the belief systems that go with it, I'm looking at my own now and I have those too, so I'm taking it gentle. Right on track.

[yeslist]

Not much fun in "trying" to sleep less if there is resistance through 'lack of' while focussing on the objective.(to sleep less)
Nothing ever comes to us unless we allow it to be that way. If I were to allow myself to sleep less and get excited about being awake longer in the moment then the objective will be accomplished swiftly.
Important to pay attention to how we are feeling regarding sleep as we focus upon it. if it is fun for you to stay awake... you will. If it is fun to enjoy a long sleep ...you will. Pretty simple really.
My two cents worth.
Simon

[Cantabile]

On the average, I now sleep 5 hours everyday, it seems that with this pattern I get to enjoy and devour more of things I want everyday.

Mmmmm...I love the word devour.

That is very interesting Rewa. :D Let me just try that.

[aurorainskye]

Right-O Simon. We can choose to enjoy life with our eyes open OR with them shut. Either way, we have an eternity which is more than all the time in the world! It feels good to know that and enjoy my sleep AND my awake time. Physical, nonphysical, awake, asleep, it's all great!

daydreamer,
aurora

[Patricia b]

New Dawn Rising expressed relief regarding the wake/sleep cycle.
The quote that Osho Rewa posted from Atlantis Forum was from Seth's Nature of Personal Reality. It's a fascinating book, and one of its major premises is about how our conscious minds were 'supposed' to be replenished by the 'unconscious'---which I take to mean "inner being" during the sleep periods.

So if the sleep periods are shorter, as the quote describes, we can wake up more easily, even in the dark of the night, and examine the dreams or thoughts that came in as we re-entered physical reality. Abraham talks of evaluating the emotional content and then using that to see what information lies therin for our conscious use.

So much of what we believe about sleep has been taught to us by our industrial revolution oriented culture, which is dependent upon the 8-hour divisions of the "day."

Our bodies are not dependent upon our health; they are dependent upon our mental health.

Pat

[Antonio_4]

I've been testing some sleeping patterns for the last 3 months.
I've had the freedom to do this since I haven't been working.

What works the best for me, is to use the contrast. Your body knows what it needs and when it needs something. Like I've been losing weight after changing my way of eating. I eat only when I feel hungry. So now I sleep only when I feel sleepy. This has caused me to wake up sharp and refreshed. My dreams are clearer because of that too. Recently I had one of the shaperst dreams ever. I woke up with a sensation and kept it throught out the entire day!
I sleep just for 5,6 hours and then I'm able to jump out of bed! Ready for action!

The period I enjoyed the most. Was when I managed to wake up before sunrise. I haven't been able to do it lately, since the sun comes up at 5:04 now.
Nothing beats a refreshed wake up, open the windows, hear the birds sing or go to the beach to watch the sunrise

I can sleep for 12 hours, but I won't remember dreams clear simply because I roll out of bed feeling as if a was ran over be a huge heavy but fluffy pillowed truck.

[Stewart]

-- wanted to share that just the other night, as I was falling to sleep, I did a meditation in bed and felt connected to Source and asked for new ideas to flow.

-- moments before I woke up the following morning, I had a clear vision of a sequence of events on a TV screen that laid out an entire NEW film right before my eyes. It played like a trailer to a movie... but more than the visual images, I FELT the entire film process through my being... it was as if it was downloaded (similar to the way music comes to me).

-- well, stay tuned because I'm going to follow through with this impulse and actually write the script based on the vision and see what happens... it's as though the Universe was giving me this wonderful story as a gift and said "now what you want to do with it is up to you..."

All I can say is it was a pretty unique idea, totally fun and up my alley, and I haven't seen it done before! So I'm gonna write --------

-- OH MY GOD -- right now as I'm typing this, I have music playing in my house, the "standards" station on my cable box -- and lyrics to the song JUST included this line: "time to go write your screenplay..."

CANNOT believe it.

OK Universe, I HEAR YOU.

SSJ

I LOVE when it happens for me like this!!! :dance:

[Pina Colada]

I sleep ALOT.I'm a sleepyhead.It would be nice to sleep 5 hours a day.If my body wants that,I'm fine with it.
Stewart,that's awesome.Ok,I'm a little jelaous.But a lot happy for you.I only get visions of jewel designes sometimes.Beutiful golden rings with rubys.But never something like a music download.That's great!I just heard a sample of your music and I have to say it's amazing.You're magical,you know that?

[Osho Rewa]

Thanks for sharing your creative process Stewart, fascinating.

I spontaneously woke up today after three hours of sleep and I'm feeling A ok - there's so much of life to be lived and I love having all the extra time especially night time - its so sacred.

[Ajna]

I love to sleep but my body is really not all that interested. Even if I go to bed and count sheep :mrgreen: it just doesn't work, I actually feel most awake during nighttime.

It hasn't always been that way for me - it's only after I opened up in my meditation that my need for sleep decreased. Before that I used to sleep A LOT.

[Osho Rewa]

Ajna very helpful that you mention the connection. I have been receiving guidance to meditate twice a day.

[Jen2174]

I sleep nine or ten hours also and whats bad is that if i get around seven i feel like i cant think real deep during the day and less than that im a vegetable. i cant even wake up until nine or ten hours are up, its like i have no control over it. so i understand the poster that said that they do this also.

I think that the more you are living your dreams and the more happier you are, the less tired youll probably feel..thats the hope anyway

[asjairok]

So if the sleep periods are shorter, as the quote describes, we can wake up more easily, even in the dark of the night, and examine the dreams or thoughts that came in as we re-entered physical reality. Abraham talks of evaluating the emotional content and then using that to see what information lies therin for our conscious use.


Pat


Great that you posted this, because this gives me actually the reason to do it, otherwise I enjoy sleeping...so this brings me closer to the wish I also have to change this.

[Wideyed]

:shock: Old School!

Ok this thread is pretty gnarly. I was reading Seth Speaks before bed last night and he was discussing sleep like he was quoted in the first post. Made alot of sense to me so i decided to change my sleeping patterns right then. I think i usually have 9-10 hours of sleep and i wake up feeling like shit lol. Just had a 5 hour block of sleep & will go for 2 abit later on. Feeling kinda tired right now but my body should adjust, will see how it goes.

Anyone else given this a go?

[Daisy]

How about wet dreams?


YouTube- The Lonely Island - Jizz In My Pants

[Wideyed]

haha love that song