View Full Version : Bashar on Knowingness, Faith, Hope, Luck, Fate and Despair
Osho Rewa
Sat Jun 14 2008, 5:53am
We understand that in your society for thousand upon thousand of years the idea of faith
has been the pinnacle of belief system structures. From using your faith you have allowed yourselves great accomplishments on your planet from time to time but also you have found, many of you, the idea of faith to be quite difficult to uphold, to maintain, to hang on to in times of duress, times of stress, times of doubt. The purpose of this communication is to allow you to go beyond faith into knowingness which is far more powerful.
Faith is one of the highest expression of your belief system, without relying on that you will rely on hope, and without hope you will simply find yourselves relying on what you call luck, and without luck you will find yourselves relying on fate, and without even relying on fate you may find yourselves experiencing despair.
Ironically belief system is what can take you beyond faith into knowingness, once you allow yourself to achieve knowingness, belief no longer factors in. Knowingness requires no belief. We know that faith is a very strong mechanism, but we want you to know that compared to absolute knowingness it pales. We'll take the leap of faith, and leave faith behind.
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Bashar, "A Matter of Faith"
Rodney
Sat Jun 14 2008, 6:01am
I heard Bashar say this on his recordings before too. Most of the communications with him are from the situation of "What do you know, and what do you know how don't know?" And by setting up belief systems using what we know absolutely, you can then bridge the gap of what you don't know, to get to where you want to be.
Osho Rewa
Sat Jun 14 2008, 6:02am
Emotional Guidance Scale (from the book, Ask and It Is Given)
Joy / Knowledge / Empowerment / Freedom / Love / Appreciation
Passion
Enthusiasm / Eagerness / Happiness
Positive Expectation / Belief
Optimism - Luck?
Hopefulness
Contentment - Fate?
Boredom
Pessimism
Frustration / Irritation / Impatience
“Overwhelment”
Disappointment
Doubt
Worry
Blame
Discouragement
Anger
Revenge
Hatred / Rage
Jealousy
Insecurity / Guilt / Unworthiness
Fear / Grief / Depression / Despair / Powerlessness
Osho Rewa
Sat Jun 14 2008, 6:04am
And by setting up belief systems using what we know absolutely, you can then bridge the gap of what you don't know, to get to where you want to be.
11:11 tell me more about this
Osho Rewa
Sat Jun 14 2008, 6:07am
One comment people who visit India make is that "they have nothing much, yet they're happy".
Here the idea of Fate, determinism is strong, and so to one coming from a place of despair
contentment seems happy, for the people are accepting of their destinies peacefully and enjoying whatever little they have.
Izzy
Sat Jun 14 2008, 11:03am
This changes my perspecive of things. I thought faith was the *key* to it all. But I think it's getting more and more clear to me now. Faith does sound a little like blind belief on something helping me out. A bit like *hoping* something out there will make things happen for me.
Now knowingness has more, much more impact than faith (as I see it), since I am not just trusting. I am knowiiiinnngggggggg, with all my heart, with all my passion that things will be. Period.
Knowingness is absolute. No doubt that everything is the way I want it to be or better. It makes you feel bigger than faith.
Knowingness...what a great concept. So simple.
Thanks Rewa,
Isabel
Osho Rewa
Sat Jun 14 2008, 2:10pm
Knowingness is absolute. No doubt that everything is the way I want it to be or better. It makes you feel bigger than faith.
Thanks Rewa,
Isabel
Isabel I'm glad this helped you, Knowingness is a big step forward for it has space for doubt -
that is seen as just another frequency we may choose, not something to be beaten up.
asjairok
Sat Jun 14 2008, 2:43pm
One comment people who visit India make is that "they have nothing much, yet they're happy".
Here the idea of Fate, determinism is strong, and so to one coming from a place of despair
contentment seems happy, for the people are accepting of their destinies peacefully and enjoying whatever little they have.
Yes. Similar is with Serbia. They enjoy so much, they party a lot, and little money they have they use to feel good. Love among people is great. They dream. People help each other a lot, so they don't have to spend on hairdresser..., they have friend to give a hand, they exchange their jams and other pots with tomato, or whatever one women did and other didn't. Level of consciousness of the other persons is so high, so that everybody takes care of another. Individualism is not so much developed. You can call nation the community, folk, because that is what it is.
So how can they not be happy, they are abundant.
asjairok
Sat Jun 14 2008, 2:46pm
Knowingness is absolute. No doubt that everything is the way I want it to be or better. It makes you feel bigger than faith.
Thanks Rewa,
Isabel
Isabel I'm glad this helped you, Knowingness is a big step forward for it has space for doubt -
that is seen as just another frequency we may choose, not something to be beaten up.
Madam Blavatsky that was co-founder of Theosophy( somewhere you can find the claim that New age started with her)set the claim: Truth is only write religion.
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