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Crystal
Sun Mar 21 2010, 5:25am
:wave::wave:
asjairok
Sun Mar 21 2010, 8:25am
you already know the answer,
question is what are you afraid will happen if you brake up the relationship, if you say your truth?
I don't know all situation very well, to judge how important is that info, because maybe, just maybe that person didn't know it matters, but I don't know you two.
Question: My question is: where is the line between a person's right to privacy (and the right to choose not to disclose certain information) and lying by omission for the purpose of manipulation?
I think also any person that become close friend, should have this feeling for a bound, or fuck it!
TornadoOfFury
Sun Mar 21 2010, 10:32am
From my experience, it is really easy to say 'fuck it,' unless it is you in the situation. If you can completely drop your emotional attachment to the person, then that is a good time to drop it. If you still have strong feelings about the situation, FEEL them! That's what they are there for.
I know you are just looking for other perspectives, but I think you might be going about it backwards. You are looking for ways to deal with it from others as a reinforcement for a defense mechanism. In other words, whatever action you choose to take, you are looking for one or more others to either agree with or disagree with your situation in order to strengthen your own mental position. That way when you make your choice, you will feel justified in your choice.
Now I know that sounds like a good thing, justifying your choice. But, again from my experience, I feel that justifying something can obscure the REAL reasons for your choices. In other words, it's easy to hide truth, especially from yourself.
My opinion: don't ask for others' opinion. Feel the feelings for yourself. Be authentic. Don't look for the 'abe' way of doing it. Look for the REAL Crystal way of doing it. Even that is a little off. Let the feelings take you deeply into who you really are, beyond your name and labels, and let the words and actions flow from you.
That's my opinion :)
asjairok
Sun Mar 21 2010, 11:07am
I suppose Abraham would probably say that my friend has no obligation to consider my feelings in anything she does. Her only obligation is to feel good and take actions that are aligned for her and "not give a rip" about other people. In principal it sounds good but sometimes it's hard to be on the other end of that! :facelol:
well..., what Abraham would say is that when you align, you can have friendship of your choice. Which can be with that person or another person.
You can find a person fo which feels good to give a rip.
From my experience, it is really easy to say 'fuck it,' unless it is you in the situation.
well saying fuck it have nothing to do with not feeling all emotions that you have.
It's just a choice from contrasting situation, you now know what you do want and I would say: fuck it,
but that doesn't mean I wouldn't feel any feelings,
only that I am willing to feel all those feelings until I come to clear,
and after that I would have experience of my choice.
Rodney
Sun Mar 21 2010, 3:31pm
My response
I felt that Person A's choice to withold information from me was designed to manipulate my feelings and behaviour. However, I also know that if I was not a vibrational match to being manipulated then this situation would not have occurred and I take full responsibility for that. But it's raised a little question for me and I would appreciate the take of others on the subject.
I would like to challenge you to consider that your intention is more important than the outcome. The result of this relationship pales in comparison, in importance, to the thoughts, intentions, and actions that it inspired in you. The damage you feel was done unto you, it isn't important, because you acted from a place of honesty, trust, joy, willingness to co-create. You may be disappointed with the end-result, this damage that you feel has been done unto you. But do so from a place of knowing that at the core level, the way that you acted throughout your interaction with this person, you remained true to your self. Unlike this other person, you didn't have to distort who you are -- that which your inner-being keeps as a representation of you in your highest form -- because YOU don't need to distort truth to have a meaningful relationship.
So I ask you to take that away from this experience. Instead of deriving your happiness from the circumstances of what unfolds, I ask you to absorb your happiness from the knowing that -- I did everything that I was supposed to, and simply, I couldn't have done anything more. I gave my trust, attention, and appreciation to this relationship. And I'm proud that I was able to deliver the best of me.
You never had a choice in how this experience was going to unfold. You did to some extent, but not to a point where you could control absolutely what would happen. But, where you did have a choice was in your thoughts, intentions, and actions. Your power was in forming the entity that is YOU. It is this entity that you radiate upon the world.
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Mariposa
Mon Mar 22 2010, 2:12pm
Leah, you're so so witty! :facelol: love u, woman
Brian, your reply totally resonated with me, loved it.
And Crystal I enjoyed your little journey from the question to the finding of the answer, thanks for sharing it with us. You are really smart and love to see you embrace your freedom of choice.
Love to all :heart:
Maris
asjairok
Mon Mar 22 2010, 5:29pm
The only question that has value is How Can I Align With Me? How Can I Move Into My Vortex? Because, when you're in your Vortex, you have your answers. When you're in your Vortex, you're not asking "where is the line...?"
:heart:
I really agree with this.
Joyseeking
Tue Mar 23 2010, 3:45am
Tracy: Better than Abraham.
Well, at least as good, anyway. :heart:
One is All. All is One. There is only consciousness. The farthest you can get is pretending you are alone. Poor little fragment you. All alone and scared. But we experience this in groups too...
Oh and Crystal thanks for asking this question and giving me some clarity.
sara
Tue Mar 23 2010, 11:19am
Your question addresses a false premise, that you can control the circumstances around you and have others conform to what you think is best so you feel better.
The only question that has value is How Can I Align With Me? How Can I Move Into My Vortex? Because, when you're in your Vortex, you have your answers. When you're in your Vortex, you're not asking "where is the line...?"
It's never about what's 'out there', anyone else's connection or apparent disconnection. Take everyone else out of your process --- make this what it's always been about: You. :heart:
Yes that is very good Tracy:heart:!!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Crystal:heart: I had what seems to be a similar situation happen to me last fall...
This gal (a friend on and off for a life time, who had recently come back into town) befriended me..long story short she ask if she could phone my new boy friend (who thought that he was in love with me and that we where to be partners) I said NO :grin: (She has a long history of not being into teh vortex concernig men:grin:..she willl do anything to get a guy always needs a guy at all costs =it is sad really)
She did it anyway talking to him for a long time askinghim aobut his $ and plans for the future etc. and emailed him often too.
Shje did not tellme..
He finally told me a month later:grin:......
She never told me....:o:shock::rolleyes::scrming:
She was toast!!!!!!
It felt sooooo good to let her go:grin::heart:
I really wanted to anyway..so the universe gave me a way :grin:
it did not feel good =her vibes did not feel good with me...and I am now clear of her ..she stays away from me now :grin::heart:
a blessing..all is good!!
ALL IS WELL!!!!
a GIFT IN EACH ACTION even in the yucky stuff:grin::heart::love::heart:
HOPE THIS HELPS A BIT CRYSTAL:heart::love::heart:
sara
Wed Mar 24 2010, 11:06am
Yes it does help. Thanks for your always loving perspective Nancy Louise.
:heart::heart::heart::hug::heart::heart::heart:
Love
Crystal
:kiss:
Awe, thank you Crystal:heart:r this LOVE hug today !!!:love::heart::grin::heart:
It feels GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:heart::joylick::heart :
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