I guess I'm the only asshole [Archive]

Flo

Tue Dec 15 2009, 7:18pm

My most favorite song when I am feeling like an asshole......

YouTube- Video 136 - Everything - Alanis Morissette - 2004

I can be an asshole of the grandest kind
I can withhold like it�s going out of style
I can be the moodiest baby and you�ve never met anyone
who is as negative as I am sometimes

I am the wisest woman you've ever met.
I am the kindest soul with whom you've connected.
I have the bravest heart that you've ever seen
And you've never met anyone
Who's as positive as I am sometimes.

You see everything, you see every part
You see all my light and you love my dark
You dig everything of which I'm ashamed
There's not anything to which you can�t relate
And you�re still here

I blame everyone else, not my own partaking
My passive-aggressiveness can be devastating
I'm terrified and mistrusting
And you�ve never met anyone as,
As closed down as I am sometimes.

You see everything, you see every part
You see all my light and you love my dark
You dig everything of which I'm ashamed
There's not anything to which you can�t relate
And you�re still here

What I resist, persists, and speaks louder than I know
What I resist, you love, no matter how low or high I go

I'm the funniest woman you've ever known.
I am the dullest woman you've ever known.
I'm the most gorgeous woman you've ever known
And you've never met anyone as, as everything as I am sometimes.

You see everything, you see every part
You see all my light and you love my dark
You dig everything of which I'm ashamed
There's not anything to which you can�t relate
And you�re still here

And you�re still here
And you're still here...

( I may have posted this here before, but I simply love this song.....especially on those ass-holey days. Source adores you....loves your light and your dark......truly it is all good and all useful (see Tracy's amazing post))

:heart::love::heart::love::namaste:((((((mury))))) )))):namaste::heart::love::heart::love:

Kameroon

Tue Dec 15 2009, 7:45pm

People you trully are some great people!
I guess I have to find peace with what is...

i would rather move this to our family debate now.. where i can tell you what is really going on...maybe will i feel better for one last time....
i willpost soon...

thanks for ur funny responces and kindness.

and i love the songs =)

expecially the Flo one... great!!!

sara

Tue Dec 15 2009, 8:21pm

Mury just roll around in this feeling for awhile. Great powers lie in these moments. You'll find out soon....
You're feeling like shit now. Tomorrow you might feel fantastic.
KNOW just one thing: you exist. You're here now, and because you're here, you can feel bad and you can feel good. ..
If you weren't here, you couldn't feel bad ...
Thank your breath for allowing you to be here,...enjoy the show.

You are BRILLIANT :heart: ANTONIO :heart: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I COULD OF USED THIS POST A LOT MYSELF :-):heart::grin::heart::grin::heart:

sara

Tue Dec 15 2009, 10:00pm

http://doubleawesome.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ass-hole-get-it.jpg

Okay, Okay, Okay, I better get off Abetalk before I REALLY make an ass out of myself. I am outta control tonight.
YOU ARE SOOO MUCH FUN TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON SKYPE AND NOW HERE!!!!!HAhhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa:heart:: joylick::joylick::joylick::joylick::joylick::heart ::heart::joylick::joylick::joylick::joylick:

Kylejamesp81

Tue Dec 15 2009, 10:53pm

I can relate to some of your feelings. I will say that I love myself but get very upset when others do not show love towards me.. I think it is because I dont understand what is 'unlovable about me'. I guess on one hand it is good that I know how wonderful I am, but it upsets me when I spend time and money on people who do not appreciate me or so much as give me a phone call.. I think some people out there just enjoy using others for their own benefit.

Not sure if what I am saying is helping, I guess I just needed to vent too. I will say that as a guy, I do not feel that woman should hold 'chivalry' as such an important quality in a man. I have gladly paid for many woman on first dates that never seen a second and it is hard to want to pay for a woman's meal,etc after so many of them do not show any appreciation or gratitude. I met someone recently from my area and really dont feel like that person wants any kind of relationship with me, yet she gladly allowed me to pay for her meals. Why are some woman not honest with us men?

sara

Tue Dec 15 2009, 11:04pm

Dear Kyle...
your post sounds like a new thread to me .. :-)

:heart::heart::grin::heart::heart::joylick::heart: :heart:

Kylejamesp81

Tue Dec 15 2009, 11:28pm

yea it just came out unintentionally...oops :D

asjairok

Wed Dec 16 2009, 3:10am

Dear Kyle , any woman that wants only meals from you must be rally really really really poorrofl;)

Kylejamesp81

Wed Dec 16 2009, 6:17am

:facelol: I mean I'm a handsome guy right? (rhetorical) I also was a very good listener, positive, laughing, happy, smart and everything else.. but most importantly I was myself. All I was wanting was a new friendship but after that meeting, she didnt ever initiate a phone call or text. I guess I didnt leave a lasting impression or perhaps she had her own issues going on..either way I am fine now thanks to all of the joyful threads I have been reading today on AbeTalk!! DOwnstream feels sooo much better Woohoo!!:joylick:

cigi

Wed Dec 16 2009, 7:29am

:facelol: I mean I'm a handsome guy right? (rhetorical)

Bahaha! I love that line!!:facelol:

I also was a very good listener, positive, laughing, happy, smart and everything else.. but most importantly I was myself. All I was wanting was a new friendship

See? Here, you're still stating what you KNOW. These are good thoughts. This is acknowledging your own intentions.

Then you run it off a cliff:

but after that meeting, she didnt ever initiate a phone call or text. I guess I didnt leave a lasting impression or perhaps she had her own issues going on..

This is where you start to make assumptions about what she may feel or what her motives might have been. That's muddy water, partner. You'll never get a clear answer there & in truth it's not your business what she could possibly maybe think anyway.

Know your own value. Period. And seriously, there's never a shortage of people to go out with, so relax & have fun & continue just being you. :heart:

Phew! Freedom. ahhh.

Mariposa

Wed Dec 16 2009, 8:28am

maybe, maybe, perhaps, you have a belief that people are responding to:

''I am great and people don't appreciate it''

I say... allow them to surprise you... I'd say beating the drum of women taking advantage... is likely to attract more of that...

sara

Wed Dec 16 2009, 11:53am

yea it just came out unintentionally...oops :D

no oops necessary..
I didn't mean that You were diverting a thread (we do that here all the time:facelol::facelol::facelol::facelol::facelol:. .usually into some silly laughter:facelol: )..
I just meant ..that it seemed so important to you
=that it deserved its own thread!

Hugs, Nancy-Louise:heart::grin::heart:

maybe, maybe, perhaps, you have a belief that people are responding to:
''I am great and people don't appreciate it''
I say... allow them to surprise you... I'd say beating the drum of women taking advantage... is likely to attract more of that...

OH how wise you are Maris!!!!!!!!!!!

See? Here, you're still stating what you KNOW. These are good thoughts.
Then you run it off a cliff:
...where you start to make assumptions about what she may feel or what her motives might have been. ..Know your own value. Period.
...there's never a shortage of people to go out with, so relax & have fun ... Freedom. ahhh.

Right on Cigi :heart::heart::heart:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pina Colada

Wed Dec 16 2009, 12:30pm

Assholes are sacred.

http://blog.turntablelab.com/images/jesus%20anus.jpg

sara

Wed Dec 16 2009, 12:49pm

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
lolololol

:facelol: :facelol: :facelol: :facelol: :facelol: :facelol: :rolleyes: :o :shock: :facelol: :facelol: :facelol: :rolleyes: :facelol: :heart::heart::heart::joylick::heart::heart::heart :

Kylejamesp81

Sat Dec 19 2009, 5:00pm

Did you try calling or texting her? She's probably anguishing to her friends about this great guy that didn't get back to her.

The thing is I believe in equality and the two way road of communication. I do not buy in to the unwritten rule of society that the man always needs to initiate conversations and dates.. its not about chivalry, its about equality in my opinion.

Bahaha! I love that line!!:facelol:

See? Here, you're still stating what you KNOW. These are good thoughts. This is acknowledging your own intentions.

Then you run it off a cliff:

This is where you start to make assumptions about what she may feel or what her motives might have been. That's muddy water, partner. You'll never get a clear answer there & in truth it's not your business what she could possibly maybe think anyway.

Know your own value. Period. And seriously, there's never a shortage of people to go out with, so relax & have fun & continue just being you. :heart:

Phew! Freedom. ahhh.

For sure! I already met a new woman who is really cool in every way! Perhaps my vibration changed and I attracted a more suitable mate! Woohoo!

Nightprincessa

Sat Dec 19 2009, 9:35pm

Hmmm I could say so much in this thread and bring so much clarity.... :rolleyes:

Kylejamesp81

Sun Dec 20 2009, 1:18am

Did you check whether she was clear on that?

Chivalry is just another word for caring and thoughtfulness. It's nice that you gave her an opportunity to call you, but are you going to write her off because she hasn't?

There are definite biological reasons for all the dating etiquette. Male peacocks haven't stopped displaying their tails because the world has moved on. Female turtles don't chase males in the name of equality.

The human female looks for a male who will stick around and help raise the young. Even those girls/women who don't want children look for the same things: a guy who doesn't flinch at the first hurdle and demonstrates his ability to offer support. Check out the many anguished posts from single women on this forum and you'll get the idea.

When men can go though pregnancy and childbirth, you'll all be off the hook.

I dont think that men need to go through childbirth in order to be EQUAL with the opposite sex. Please try again.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chivalry

Here is the definition. Nothing in that definition mentions needing to pay for the woman on the first date. I have dated woman who enjoyed taking turns and even going halfsies or dutch on the first date. Usually the first encounter should not have anything set in stone as you are just getting to know the person. Personally, I like the idea of meeting at a public park during the day or going for a walk together as a first date. No money spent and a great opportunity for conversation and bonding.

Perhaps I am a bit jaded as I have gone out with woman a few times who happily accept my money and paying for the dates and then never talk to me again. This thread did not begin about me so I do apologize for sort of 'hijacking' the thread. Everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion. I was just looking to see if any other guys may have experienced something similar. Any woman who has ever gone out with me knows that I always pay on the first date, open the car door, and am a perfect gentleman. What is the woman's 'duty' on dates? To sit there and look pretty? Perhaps some may feel that I should be single for questioning the standards of society? That is perfectly valid and ok as we are all entitled to our opinions. In other news, I am enjoying the holidays more and more as the days go by! Great thread and responses everyone, I love hearing everyones different perspectives in life as it brings much clarity! :heart::joylick::D

Mury -- If you're happy 30% of the time - you're doing really, really good.

I was listening to Abe the other night and, as you know, feeling happy is equal to being in your Vortex. Abe went on to say that the average adult (who doesn't know they're the Leading Edge) is in their Vortex maybe 1 to 5% of the time. Most 8 year old children are in the Vortex about 40% of the time.

So, you can look at the contrast you experienced anyway you choose. But, you could remind yourself that 30% is kick ass and, you just had a strong step One moment going on.

Think about all those desires you shot off...now you know what you don't want, so you're waaaaay more clear on what you do want. That's totally cool, Mury!! You are doing incredibly well and whatever you have in store for your life, you're just making sure it's so perfect that when whatever it is you've asked for shows up --- you are gonna be blown away.

Pretty sneaky on your part. Uh huh. :heart:

Excellent point Tracy!! I will remember that the step 1 moments are just as valuable as all the other steps! :grin:

sara

Sun Dec 20 2009, 9:43pm

If you're happy 30% of the time - you're doing really, really good. ...
Abe went on to say that the average adult ...is in their Vortex maybe 1 to 5% of the time. Most 8 year old children are in the Vortex about 40% of the time.

Think about all those desires you shot off...now you know what you don't want, so you're waaaaay more clear on what you do want. That's totally cool, Mury!! You are doing incredibly well and whatever you have in store for your life, you're just making sure it's so perfect that when whatever it is you've asked for shows up --- you are gonna be blown away.. :heart:

GREAT MESSAGE FOR US ALL TRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a great coach you are!!!!!!!!!!!!:heart::love::heart:mwah!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Kyle :heart:said:
What is the woman's 'duty' on dates?

Hey man!! hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa:heart::grin::heart::facelol:: heart:

duty?????????????:heart::joylick::heart::joylick:: heart:

does this have anything to do with cooking and cleaning and...hahaha
just kidding:heart::joylick::heart::joylick::heart: and playing...:joylick::joylick::joylick:

My duty and my only duty!
Is to do what feels good in each moment!
I am serious here!
even now I get responses like...
well I am getting "blue balls " here so your duty is to....
HAhahahahhahaha:joylick::joylick: :facelol: :o :rolleyes: :facelol: :facelol:
NO WAY!!
I HAVE NO DUTY TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING BUT MY INNER GUIDANCE AND FEELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :heart::heart::grin::love::heart::heart:

with respectfulness and Source Love..:heart::grin::love::heart:..I am sure that you, Klye, are a marvelous date!!!!!!..and any gal would be very lucky to be with you !!!!!!!!!! with or without paying :-):heart::heart::love::heart::heart:

Rodney

Sun Dec 20 2009, 11:17pm

I was just looking to see if any other guys may have experienced something similar. Any woman who has ever gone out with me knows that I always pay on the first date, open the car door, and am a perfect gentleman. What is the woman's 'duty' on dates? To sit there and look pretty? Perhaps some may feel that I should be single for questioning the standards of society? That is perfectly valid and ok as we are all entitled to our opinions.

Dude, sounds like you're making a whole lot out of a lot of nothing. Honestly, who cares! It's only money. Do you really want people to sympathize with you on the topic of poverty? :grin: I mean, I do that all the time. Play the victim role. "I was born poor, and I couldn't attract money if my life depended on it. Save me from my peril!" And source says, "ok, we will."

I'm poor. But that doesn't stop me from being a lover. All the girls just wanna rip off my clothes. The money shows up when I need it. I have more freedom than 99.99% of the world. No money? Hasn't stopped me. :grin:

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 3:08am

Definately not looking for sympathy. Did not mean to give that impression. I was just looking to see if any guys could relate, and I found my answer.
I'm happy, happy, happy! No worries! Love you all! :joylick:

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 12:22pm

My duty and my only duty!
Is to do what feels good in each moment!
I am serious here!
even now I get responses like...
well I am getting "blue balls " here so your duty is to....
HAhahahahhahaha:joylick::joylick: :facelol: :o :rolleyes: :facelol: :facelol:
NO WAY!!
I HAVE NO DUTY TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING BUT MY INNER GUIDANCE AND FEELING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :heart::heart::grin::love::heart::heart:

Perfectly stated Nancy Lou!!!

DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING. It is YOUR perception of the events and not necessarily the experience of the other.

When you give, GIVE UNCONDITIONALLY and not because you expect something in return.

And last but not least... make sure you are BOTH on the same page as to whether you really are on a "date" or just a meeting of two friends. :namaste:

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 2:52pm

Perfectly stated Nancy Lou!!!

DON'T ASSUME ANYTHING. It is YOUR perception of the events and not necessarily the experience of the other.

When you give, GIVE UNCONDITIONALLY and not because you expect something in return.

And last but not least... make sure you are BOTH on the same page as to whether you really are on a "date" or just a meeting of two friends. :namaste:

Its funny seeing you on AbeTalk when you said you're not "into" Abraham Hicks anymore. Just say/think whatever makes you feel better Martha! I'm sure an aging woman like yourself who has a hot, young guy like me buy her a drink LOVES that feeling! Not to mention all of your pictures just cry out "Give me attention!" Just do what makes you feel better. Cuz you can do no wrong! We all can do no wrong honestly. All that matters is how you feel! And I feel great! Especially because now I realize what I dont want. :joylick:

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 3:34pm

Well, threads have a way of evolving like this. And, you never know...maybe Mury, as well as others, are gaining clarity from your place of asking and discussing. It's all good.

Now, this is a really good statement, because it does show you're trying to gain clarity on your subject and some of the thoughts you notice that come up as a result.

Maybe, however, what you're really asking, or wanting, is to have a way to feel good while moving through your deciphering process? And, there's always value to be found, sometimes, while discussing with others and asking them for their perspective. As long as you continue to evolve in what feels good for you.

The fact is -- and I know you're aware - it's really hard to control what anyone thinks or believes - regardless if it's someone you're going on a first date with, or someone you've know your whole life. The one thing which might be beneficial is segment intending before you ask for a date, and even before you leave. This way, possibly, those feelings of injustice, or inequality, won't surface and their power will diminish. Because, it sounds like (but only you know for sure) is that sometimes you might place yourself in a position where thoughts, and the resulting feelings that no longer serve you, kinda grab a hold of you before you realize what's happening. Use those moments to serve you in your growth. Talk yourself into feeling good before you do anything.

I like to be appreciated, just as much as I like appreciating others. I can tell if someone has had a good time with me, because I'm becoming a very good reader of energy, and not just my own. I might be making too big of a deal of this protocol for dating, because what I'm really wanting, what I'm really seeking, is connection with myself. And, I know if I'm present and in my vortex, or if I'm not. And, when I'm in my vortex, when I'm feeling really, really good about Me, it's no big deal if I call someone, or they call me. It's no different than calling an old friend and enjoying each other's company. But, I have learned that I feel very different when I don't feel confident with myself, and when I worry and fuss over things that just aren't important. So, I'm going to focus on the only thing I've ever had control over anyway, and that's Me. I've come to know that no action in the world will replace how I feel about myself. Nothing is more important than I feel good. Nothing is more important than I'm in my groove. Because, when I'm in that place of connection, the whole world lights up for me! And, now that I think about it, it's really no big deal if some girl doesn't call me after a date. Actually, it's probably a really good thing - especially if we didn't click, because I don't like it when I place myself in the position of not being true to myself. And, more so, I appreciate this process of dating and all the things I'm learning. I appreciate all those dates that 'didn't' work out, as much as I do the dates that do work. I know I'm still figuring this thing out and I like all the conclusions I'm coming to about what I'm wanting. I'm feeling so good now that I'm looking forward to my next date - no matter what happens, because I'm feeling really, really good about me!

Thank you Tracy for a great responce! It was not a date though, it only reminded me of past dates because of the 'date-like' activites and gestures that took place. Perception is certainly everything! In all honestly, I was hoping to find a business client which is why I gave her my Superfoods binder to look through, however, she did not appear interested in the binder but seemed more interested in me buying her drinks- I learned from the experience also that some people enjoy 'acting' a certain way to gain a particular outcome. but AGAIN that is one perception, haha ^^ I absolutely love that affirmation Tracy and I will certainly use that sometime! Much love to you!

Martha is my daughter. :facelol:

It's refreshing to meet a hot young guy whose ideas about men and women are more old-fashioned than my own.

:facelol::facelol::facelol::facelol: That hilarious especially since she 'said' that her mom was superreligious and didnt approve of many of her beliefs and ways. Looks like we have more than 1 actress in this thread today!! haha

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 3:46pm

Is this the same woman? :scratch: I'm wondering who wasn't honest with whom.

Different woman and I'm sure male-bashers would love to paint me as the 'dishonest' one! Perhaps you were hurt by a man..hmm. But that cant be seeing how no one can hurt another person. We choose how we feel. Period. ;)

WOOHOO! I feel like a superhero! One man takes on the whole female world! AND WINS!!! The reason im winning is because I feel good and people keep adding to the thread. However, I may grow bored soon and leave. Its been quite a fun ride though! :heart::heart::heart: Everyone!

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 3:51pm

And feel free to USE people and then pretend you're not afterwards ( if that makes you feel better too)

If you think I use people it is your own perception Kyle, not mine, and definitely not what I do.

Ok, since you stated that I will tell my perception of the events.

Kyle sent me a PM on the Abe forum, which I no longer visit, a few weeks ago because he saw that we're both from the same area and he wanted to connect with like minded people. I did reply happily because I also want to meet like minded people. He said he would like to talk to me some time so I sent him my phone number and said that I would love to talk to him (I'm paraphrasing here cuz I don't remember my or his exact words.)

He sent me a Thanksgiving text mssg to which I replied very friendly wishing him a good one as well. Then in one of his next texts he said he would like to meet me, so I did call him and we talked happily and nicely on the phone and I said spontaneously that I could meet him later on that evening, which was to be a few hours later. I told him I could go meet him where he lives because I used to live there and have family who live there as well and it was no big deal to do so. We agreed to meet at the parking lot of a shopping center between a restaurant that he mentioned and Borders (book store)... we talked about maybe going to the restaurant or going to Borders or both. I got there and we go in the restaurant... I told him I wasn't really hungry, so he asked me if I wanted to drink something and I kinda hesitated and he suggested a mojito because he had seen my status on FB about me liking mojitos... so I said yes (happily.) We talked about spirituality for a long while over that ONE drink (yes, he paid for it.)

Then we left and walked across the parking lot to Borders and we just browse around a bit and kept talking about spirituality all the time. Then he asked if I was hungry, and still wasn't, but we still went to another restaurant at his suggestion. Because I wasn't really hungry, and I believe he wasn't either, he asked for one order of breadsticks with dipping sauce, WHICH WE SHARED, and even left some. All this time still talking only about spirituality and our belief systems.

When he took me back to my car he gave me some Abraham CDs that he had burned for me and a binder explaining about his business (I didn't ask for these things, he just gave them to me.) I hugged him and thank him a lot for being an awesome person and for the very nice time. I have met other like minded people (who don't live in the area) and have invited them to drinks or dinner, and I certainly don't expect nothing in return but just a thank you in the moment.

He sent me a FB mssg next day and wanted another "date" that weekend. I explained to him that I don't date and when I do go out with people I do so as friends so there are no expectations or pressures (to me our meeting was not a date but a meeting of like minded people for the purpose of sharing beliefs.)

So I said that we could go hug trees "one of these days" because we talked about how we both like doing that. But all of his texts and private messages thereafter were romantically inclined and he even talked about raising a child with our belief systems. I was only as loving as I could be without leading him on when I realized that his priority was to find a romantic relationship, but I was looking for only friendship.

And now he thinks I used him because he bought me one drink and paid for an order of breadsticks that we both SHARED!!! :confused:

It's all cool though, just realize that it is just perception, and don't tell me that I use people. That only shows that you have belief issues about people using you!

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:03pm

This thread begins to make sense.

I'm sure our romantic, hot young guy will be off it now, because he's feeling so good.

Now Tika, what did Momma tell you about teasing? :facelol:

Gee, I'm sorry I kept suggesting he call. I didn't know it was you! rofl

WOW you seem more 'unbelonging here' than me with that vicious attitude. Whats wrong? You worried Santa wont bring you your Mydol this year?

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:05pm

This thread begins to make sense.

I'm sure our romantic, hot young guy will be off it now, because he's feeling so good.

Now Tika, what did Momma tell you about teasing? :facelol:

Gee, I'm sorry I kept suggesting he call. I didn't know it was you! rofl

Oh wow! The things he says lol....
For your information Kyle, I have abundance of men to choose from, but it doesn't mean I will choose them all or even any of them. But whatever you want to say, it is all cool.

I liked you as a friend but you wanted more from me and when you didn't get it you got angry. You even told me that LOA must be flawed because you love yourself but it wasn't working with me. To which I answered that I don't believe in LOA (which is another story altogether.)

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:08pm

If you think I use people it is your own perception Kyle, not mine, and definitely not what I do.

Ok, since you stated that I will tell my perception of the events.

Kyle sent me a PM on the Abe forum, which I no longer visit, a few weeks ago because he saw that we're both from the same area and he wanted to connect with like minded people. I did reply happily because I also want to meet like minded people. He said he would like to talk to me some time so I sent him my phone number and said that I would love to talk to him (I'm paraphrasing here cuz I don't remember my or his exact words.)

He sent me a Thanksgiving text mssg to which I replied very friendly wishing him a good one as well. Then in one of his next texts he said he would like to meet me, so I did call him and we talked happily and nicely on the phone and I said spontaneously that I could meet him later on that evening, which was to be a few hours later. I told him I could go meet him where he lives because I used to live there and have family who live there as well and it was no big deal to do so. We agreed to meet at the parking lot of a shopping center between a restaurant that he mentioned and Borders (book store)... we talked about maybe going to the restaurant or going to Borders or both. I got there and we go in the restaurant... I told him I wasn't really hungry, so he asked me if I wanted to drink something and I kinda hesitated and he suggested a mojito because he had seen my status on FB about me liking mojitos... so I said yes (happily.) We talked about spirituality for a long while over that ONE drink (yes, he paid for it.)

Then we left and walked across the parking lot to Borders and we just browse around a bit and kept talking about spirituality all the time. Then he asked if I was hungry, and still wasn't, but we still went to another restaurant at his suggestion. Because I wasn't really hungry, and I believe he wasn't either, he asked for one order of breadsticks with dipping sauce, WHICH WE SHARED, and even left some. All this time still talking only about spirituality and our belief systems.

When he took me back to my car he gave me some Abraham CDs that he had burned for me and a binder explaining about his business (I didn't ask for these things, he just gave them to me.) I hugged him and thank him a lot for being an awesome person and for the very nice time. I have met other like minded people (who don't live in the area) and have invited them to drinks or dinner, and I certainly don't expect nothing in return but just a thank you in the moment.

He sent me a FB mssg next day and wanted another "date" that weekend. I explained to him that I don't date and when I do go out with people I do so as friends so there are no expectations or pressures (to me our meeting was not a date but a meeting of like minded people for the purpose of sharing beliefs.)

So I said that we could go hug trees "one of these days" because we talked about how we both like doing that. But all of his texts and private messages thereafter were romantically inclined and he even talked about raising a child with our belief systems. I was only as loving as I could be without leading him on when I realized that his priority was to find a romantic relationship, but I was looking for only friendship.

And now he thinks I used him because he bought me one drink and paid for an order of breadsticks that we both SHARED!!! :confused:

It's all cool though, just realize that it is just perception, and don't tell me that I use people. That only shows that you have belief issues about people using you!

Wow you certainly have a vivid recollect, at least you got 3/4 of the story correct. AbeTalk is turning into DRAMA CENTRAL between you and Leah

Oh wow! The things he says lol....
For your information Kyle, I have abundance of men to choose from, but it doesn't mean I will choose them all or even any of them. But whatever you want to say, it is all cool.

I liked you as a friend but you wanted more from me and when you didn't get it you got angry. You even told me that LOA must be flawed because you love yourself but it wasn't working with me. To which I answered that I don't believe in LOA (which is another story altogether.)

I never wanted anything from you except for you to buy superfoods from me. It is obvious that you think VERY HIGHLY of yourself and perhaps OVER-FLATTER yourself. You are not my TYPE and waaay too STUCK UP for my liking. Good luck to you with ALL YOUR MEN HAHAHAHA I think you hang out online so much because its the only way that you can get ATTENTION. I started everything off nicely and it is evident now that you and Leah are secret lovers or something trying to gang up on me. But I still love you all and wish you the best. What matters is how I feel not how you both feel.

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:13pm

Dude --- you cannot be serious?!

Kyle --- you are a Tool. Believe me when I say this is coming from a place of being Tapped In, Tuned In, and Turned On. I am in my Vortex.

To call someone names does not show you're in the vortex. You are a bitch and a cunt. Go off yourself.

Kylejamesp81

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:16pm

while we're drumming up support for our vicious feelings, is there any woman on abetalk who hasn't 'rejected' a man -- and then had him sounding off at every opportunity about her age, appearance, sexual habits etc etc etc?

women are very good at reading vibration, you see. Even in written messages.

it is clear that all the woman on here are attention whores. Goodbye abetalk and good riddens. I wont be checking this thread ever again so feel free to make as many comments as you like without the fear of a responce that puts you in your place. Peace losers.

Pina Colada

Mon Dec 21 2009, 4:59pm

it is clear that all the woman on here are attention whores. Goodbye abetalk and good riddens. I wont be checking this thread ever again so feel free to make as many comments as you like without the fear of a responce that puts you in your place. Peace losers.
LMAO,and you seemed so nice...And then you go off like that...Serial killer material...Creepy.

Ah,Tracy and Leah.:heart::heart:

And LOL,we pm'd eachother few times,he is desperate to find a girl.
Too bad,I was thinking of making him my next guy after I am done with my current crush...It's a cruel world...And he already invited me to his house on Hawaii...:cry:

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 5:20pm

OMFG! I spend ONE day in federal court & Tika's stalker turns from a poet into into a verbally abusive psycho-serial-killer who's gotta beef with all females on abetalk.:shock: Next time I'm gonna follow my guidance & take the laptop with...

Nice goin', Tika-Tik.:hilarious:

Oh & Kyle, here's a hint: Next time you have to spring for a drink & a snack, you'll have a better chance of getting the woman to do her duty if you take along some roofies.;)

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 6:42pm

t
another one bites the dust at AbeTalk and vibes off into the sunset!!

:joylick:YEEEEEEEHAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!! :joylick:

LOL Skibster. We weed 'em out quick, don't we?

PS. Several of the attention whores have noticed the new appropriateness of this thread title...:facelol:

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 6:51pm

So many false premises in this thread. OK, let's get to work...

Kyle wants some sort of relationship. He keeps telling the story that -- he is dating and dating, but it's going nowhere. He's frustrated. And you can see he's frustrated, because now after a date, the most prominent part of his focus is on how he was robbed of time and money.

Honestly, what a horrible reality you're living. To be having such a crappy experience that you rationalize that girls want to be taken out to bars/restaurants so you can buy them a drink. You're having such a horrible experience, that you honestly believe these girls have nothing better to do.

They're there because of YOU! They like your presence! If they wanted to drink, they would get together with some friends and have wine at home. Why would they bother getting dressed up, and meeting with a stranger, just to consume some alcohol in a public place? At least at home, they can wear some PJ's and be with people they trust.

And so, when you tell your story of 'these vampires that want to suck you dry for all your money', you are diminishing and devaluing all the effort, hopes and dreams of these beautiful women that meet with you.

Which is alright, it's not your fault. You're human. You're trying hard but nothing is working as you would like it to. You're exhausted of investing so much focus and energy, just to see your creation flop.

But you don't feel bad because some girl didn't spread her legs for you at the end of the night. You don't feel bad because you billed your visa $25 for a night out on the town. You feel bad because you know you're a powerful creator, you know life is supposed to be easy and fun. But when you're not able to create what you want, it challenges your knowing of who you are.

In other words, the only reason you're frustrated is because you think this experience means you are any less of a creator than you were yesterday. You are attributing power to an illusion. It's like a zoo tiger questioning itself, "am I really a tiger? I roar, and those people laugh. Where's the fear and terror?" Yes, you're still a powerful creator. You're still a tiger. But in this moment, you're not in the position to be roaring at anyone. It's like you're at the beach in your swim trunks, wanting to swim and enjoy the sun, and the only problem is it's snowing, and the temperature is negative 30.

There is divine orchestration happening all around you. The divine consciousness has planned the simplest route for you. It acts like a GPS in your vehicle. But as you're telling a story with false premises, you're not a match to that reality. Allow yourself to be guided into action. Listen to the guidance that source is sending you. The partner that you are wanting has already been aligned for you through divine orchestration. You don't have to do anything to make it happen, just follow your guidance.

When you follow your guidance, life is easy. Because now you're no longer trying to figure things out. You know that has already been done for you. And so, you do what feels best in the moment. You get a nudge of intuition, and you follow through on it. And without any effort, the girl you've been looking for shows up. And even though it's the first time you've met, it feels like you've known each other for the longest time. You don't have to say anything, because she already knows what you're thinking. And you don't even have to buy her any drinks, because she just wants to get you home so she can rip off all your clothes. And you don't have to worry about her calling back, because being in her presence, and talking with her feels so good, that is all you ever do now.

That reality is available to you. That is the reality you experience when you listen to your guidance from source.

Creating was never about wooing the girl, or proving your masculinity, or demonstrating your value to people that could not see your value (Burn your copy of 'THE GAME', it's filled with False Premises...) Creation happened the moment you experienced the contrast. It was in that moment that you became more. That was the WORK! Now comes the easy part, because the work is already done.

This is the time where you enjoy the expanded reality that life has caused for you. It's not a time of resistance, hard work, and exhaustion. It's a time of clarity, fulfillment, satisfaction, and ease. And you know when you're tuning into the wrong one based on how you feel in this moment.

You are a vibrational being. Look at the energy, and allow yourself to ignore the story. Look at how you feel in this moment. As you recognize the energy, you will hear the love, appreciation and guidance of source.

You are definitely not alone. You are being taken care of in every moment. The support is here for you at all times. And we are most certainly appreciative of your contribution to the expansion of all-that-is :heart::namaste:

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:18pm

Kyle wants some sort of relationship. He keeps telling the story that -- he is dating and dating, but it's going nowhere. He's frustrated. And you can see he's frustrated, because now after a date, the most prominent part of his focus is on how he was robbed of time and money.

You are so wrong here Rodney. This wasn't a date at all, this was just a meeting, like how you met Christine, Kidest, Izzy or any other person that you met online first.

But you don't feel bad because some girl didn't spread her legs for you at the end of the night. You don't feel bad because you billed your visa $25 for a night out on the town.

It wasn't a night out in the town either, we were in a sleeper city not the big city. I didn't dress up or anything and neither did he. In fact he was wearing a kind of slippers (nothing wrong with that) instead of shoes. It was not what you're trying to portray here. I'm trying to keep it "real" as to what it was, don't make it to be more. We agreed to meet in a parking lot, he didn't pick me up at my house either.

I understand what you're trying to do here Rodney, and it is good. But this was never a romantic date (only in his mind) so please let's keep it like that.

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:24pm

You are so wrong here Rodney. This wasn't a date at all, this was just a meeting, like how you met Christine, Kidest, Izzy or any other person that you met online first.

Yanno Tik, it sucks that you had to be put on the spot like this.:rolleyes:

However - Rodney's thoughts are in the right place.:love:

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:34pm

Yanno Tik, it sucks that you had to be put on the spot like this.:rolleyes:

However - Rodney's thoughts are in the right place.:love:

Yes cigi, except on the part where he says "because now after a date... " Right there he is implying that all are and have been dates... I would have said it like this: "because now after meeting with any woman..."

I agree with what Rodney is trying to do, but my meeting with Kyle was never a date and I want that very clear!!!

sara

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:35pm

Kyle wants some sort of relationship. He keeps telling the story that -- he is dating and dating, but it's going nowhere. He's frustrated....
They're there because of YOU! They like your presence! ...
You're human. You're trying hard but nothing is working as you would like it to. ,,, but you...feel bad because you know you're a powerful creator, you know life is supposed to be easy and fun. But when you're not able to create what you want, it challenges your knowing of who you are.
...Yes, you're still a powerful creator....
There is divine orchestration happening all around you. ...Allow yourself to be guided into action. Listen to the guidance that source is sending you. The partner that you are wanting has already been aligned for you through divine orchestration. You don't have to do anything to make it happen, just follow your guidance.

When you follow your guidance, life is easy. Because now you're no longer trying to figure things out. You know that has already been done for you. And so, you do what feels best in the moment. ...
Creation happened the moment you experienced the contrast. It was in that moment that you became more. That was the WORK! Now comes the easy part, because the work is already done.

You are definitely not alone. You are being taken care of in every moment.

Very Abey Rodney!
I love this ...wisdom here for me too :heart::grin::heart:

(I am separating this info from anything about you beautiful, young, dear :heart:TIKA :heart: or any of my other hot young sistas here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:46pm

I agree with what Rodney is trying to do, but my meeting with Kyle was never a date and I want that very clear!!!

You are 100% right.

ETA: I meant Rod's post was good in general.

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 7:50pm

I'm clear about your intentions. I'm just trying to figure out whether you were the one he wanted to be a date or the one he wanted as a Superfood client.

LOL... he just made that up today about the superfood client because he was corralled and had to say something about his interest in me.

This whole thing is about me not responding to him in the way he wanted or expected from me. :)

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:02pm

You are so wrong here Rodney...

My message was written for Kyle. He seems to have a lot of energy blocked around the topic of relationships. I wasn't specifically considering your co-created event in that message.

sara

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:06pm

"I just wish that we could all just get along" Rodney King..
remember him????
hahaha
well , though I laughed at him at the time..I really do feel this way , hahahahahah especially here..:facelol::grin::joylick::facelol::joylick::g rin: ..
How the hell did this thread get all ??????..what ever happened here?????:shock: :o :rolleyes: :shock:
I thought that Kyle was a nice guy...:grin:
....though I do not care for peeps yelling at my sistas!:heart::love::heart: :mad: :cry:
I think that we all are nice peeps down deep
and just get a bit crazy and hurt around the edges sometimes
=which can result in yelling at others...
just me:heart::grin::heart:

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:10pm

I wasn't specifically considering your co-created event in that message.

Actually, in my belief system I created the whole thing, not co-created. But because I'm playing the game of life I'll go with the "fact" that he is an asshole after all! :D

So FUCK IT! :cool:

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:13pm

Actually, in my belief system I created the whole thing, not co-created. But because I'm playing the game of life I'll go with the "fact" that he is an asshole after all! :D

That makes you an asshole magnet. :grin:

Aka, a toilet.

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:28pm

My message was written for Kyle. He seems to have a lot of energy blocked around the topic of relationships. I wasn't specifically considering your co-created event in that message.

Ok -now see that? That's non-cigi cock-blockage. His own assholeness did it, not some 3rd-party-mindin'-their-own-business-not-wantin'to-get-in-a-stranger's car-southerner.

I've totally been waiting a year for this to happen...

Just sayin'.

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:30pm

That makes you an asshole magnet. :grin:

Aka, a toilet.

Thank you Rodney, I appreciate it!

Only thing is, that is just your perception, not mine. :namaste:

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:43pm

Thank you Rodney, I appreciate it!

I can see your sarcasm :grin: Which is great, because I would be concerned if you were not angry at my seemingly labeling you a toilet.

Only thing is, that is just your perception, not mine. :namaste:

One can only be an asshole, if there is another to classify them as an asshole. And so, if you are classifying them as an asshole, that means you are experienced at identifying assholes.

This isn't trickery I cast upon you. It is common sense. You don't even have to believe law of attraction to understand this concept. :namaste:

Hey, I don't blame you. I'm sure if I was in your position, I would feel the same way. But in a few days it would pass, and the relief would appear, and I would stop attributing my power to another person.

Why is it so important for you to have everyone understand that your meeting with him was not "a date"? What would happen should one of us misunderstand your perspective, and attribute that meeting to have been a date. Would you feel powerless trying to control the uncontrollable?

Nightprincessa

Mon Dec 21 2009, 8:51pm

Well, of course it is like that, as in everything. It is all contained within my consciousness. But, I am playing the game of life, like I said, and I am entitled to call one an asshole if they fit the description in the moment. If someone raped you right now you would be angry at that person and call him names even though it means you are all the names you are calling him as well.

We can go on forever with this and don't get anywhere. When you are pissed it doesn't fucking matter that it is within your consciousness. I'm being true to myself in what I'm feeling right now... so yea, he remains an asshole for the time being!

- I am adding because I had not read what you added to your post. But I was already writing something to do with that. THIS IS HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW, I AM PISSED and I will speak my mind!!!

And I'm not giving my power to someone else, just the opposite, I'm taking it back by being pissed!!!

sara

Mon Dec 21 2009, 9:23pm

Still, we got rid of him. Until he signs in again with another name. :shock:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why would you want to manifest that?? :o :joylick::heart: NO!!!!

Let him and/or anyone go who does not desire to be here ..let them go with peace and Love...:heart::grin::heart:

...well except for Tika who is pissed and she feels good being pissed soo let her enjoy that totally :grin:

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 9:54pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why would you want to manifest that?? :o :joylick::heart: NO!!!!

Let him and/or anyone go who does not desire to be here ..let them go with peace and Love...:heart::grin::heart:

...well except for Tika who is pissed and she feels good being pissed soo let her enjoy that totally :grin:

Really?

The message you have entered is too short. Please lengthen your message to at least 10 characters.YAY Dawn.

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 9:55pm

Still, we got rid of him. Until he signs in again with another name. :shock:

Well, that certainly would be a problem... if you are afraid of him and what he has to say.

Personally, I'm expecting him to come back on his original account. Besides the little misunderstanding between him and Tika, I felt he had a valuable perspective to offer.

sara

Mon Dec 21 2009, 9:56pm

I would like it if he read and understood Rodney's most illuminating post, then came back with a whole new perspective .

I thought Rodney's post was soo good for us all ..well for me at least :grin::heart::love::heart::grin:

wouldn't it be nice if :

we all came back on the first of the year with a new upgraded more vortexy attitude!!!!!!!!!!!!

wouldn't that be wonderful!

I would love it if that happens to me !
It would be soo nice!

Rodney

Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:10pm

Hahahahahahahahaha!! Well, that just shows you know absolutely nothing about the Vortex now, doesn't it?

For clarity's sake... If you are labeling someone with a negative word, it is from a place of blocking your connection to source.

You can label someone, and it can provide you with relief. Blame is higher on the emotional scale than depression. So as you blame someone, you feel better. But relief does not mean you are in the vortex. Relief only indicates you're moving in the right direction.

When you are in the vortex (when you are connected to source), you can only feel appreciation for another human being. Seeing someone as inadequate or lacking is only possible when you are blocking yourself from source.

cigi

Mon Dec 21 2009, 10:18pm

Well that certainly would be a problem... if you are afraid of him and what he has to say.

Personally, I'm expecting him to come back on his original account. Besides the little misunderstanding between him and Tika, I felt he had a valuable perspective to offer.

EXCEPT for the Tiks stalkage, yer kinda cool Kyle. EXCEPT for callin' Tracy names, you seem less than wifebeater-worthy. EXCEPT for callin' every female member of AT an attention -whore, yer kinda ok. Hell Rod, put him in the fam. Afterall - he hasnt hit anybody...yet.

Riiiight Rodney.

TIFF1

Mon Dec 21 2009, 11:08pm

I think it was very inapropirate for Rodney to assume about Kyle or NPrsc or anyone like he did. Because if we are creating our reality Rodney created the aspect of Kyle, NPrcs and the sitauatiion as he determined it to be and used it to his advantage in taking the arrogant, elitist, superior than thou attitude. Whoever you are or think you are Riodney I have very little appreciation and respect for you as a person from this and other things I have read from you. I think your manne ris destructive of authentic relationshuip. For onwe tthing the saying is that when you assume you only make an "ass" out "u" and "me".

This cheap trick is called "Trash and Correct" and only serves to self-aggrandizement the author, Rodney. If you are so small that you feel you must trash others and make them out to be what you thing to build yourself up you may be in for a very rued awaking. I do not see this destructive behavior in the Abraham material, in spite of your attempts in the corecting part at the end.

I consiously choose to not see you as a twisted freak needling people to try and get a negative emotional respones from them so you can crap on them and get a ego charge boost. Instead I see you as a human being seeking to re-,member his truth and connection with his soul.

I do not see Kyl as a Ahole more liek a rodeo clown. Havent we all attimes? Im probly not as expereinced as some ladies here I get hit on often by guys and yes I soemtime "took" them for whatever Im not proud of. I prefer older an older man because most boys my age are insencere, inexperienced, and out to score whatevr. Besides all they know of sex is what they see on porn theyve been watching suince they wre 12, and just want a girl yo play out theyr fantasies and show off to their friends and whateever boost their egos. Kyle and Rodney could be more alike than not! Like it takes one to know one. Besides amaterrish self-serving psycho analyses from the both is so transparent! LOL! Do guys really think we are that dumb! I guess.

Leah, Cigi, Night Prcs, Flo, great I think I see hwere you are coming form mostly and appreciate!

To be clear, I have no such appreciation for Rodhmeys hipocrisy.

GoddessNextDoor

Mon Dec 21 2009, 11:20pm

This thread sure got intense didn't it? Wow :rolleyes:

I find it interesting how quickly Mr. Kyle started with all the name-calling. Dating must be very frustrating for him. He hit me up on the Abe forum too, and I hadn't been there in ages, like Tika. It seems that he was indeed on the hunt for a new babe. There's nothing wrong with that of course, but he may want to clean up his vibe around women and dating before he makes another attempt at it. Just sayin'.

I for one, don't mind being called an attention whore. Personally, I think that term was coined by those who can't handle being in the presence of someone who is secure enough to be themselves. :facelol:

Lolawashere

Mon Dec 21 2009, 11:52pm

this has been really entertaining! Dawn, where's the popcorn?

:facelol:

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 12:52am

TIFF1 is Azzz. Enough said :grin:

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:25am

If someone raped you right now you would be angry at that person and call him names even though it means you are all the names you are calling him as well.

I didn't know he raped you. Well, that's a different story altogether.

I do not see Kyl as a Ahole more liek a rodeo clown. Havent we all attimes? Im probly not as expereinced as some ladies here I get hit on often by guys and yes I soemtime "took" them for whatever Im not proud of. I prefer older an older man because most boys my age are insencere, inexperienced, and out to score whatevr. Besides all they know of sex is what they see on porn theyve been watching suince they wre 12, and just want a girl yo play out theyr fantasies and show off to their friends and whateever boost their egos. Kyle and Rodney could be more alike than not! Like it takes one to know one. Besides amaterrish self-serving psycho analyses from the both is so transparent! LOL! Do guys really think we are that dumb! I guess.

Coming from Azzz, that has me really confused. Azzz is getting hit on by men? :grin:

GoddessNextDoor

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:27am

Et tu, Lani?

First post.

:shock:

my message has been lengthened to at least 10 characters.

(thanks, Dawn ^^ )

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:50am

EXCEPT for the Tiks stalkage, yer kinda cool Kyle. EXCEPT for callin' Tracy names, you seem less than wifebeater-worthy. EXCEPT for callin' every female member of AT an attention -whore, yer kinda ok. Hell Rod, put him in the fam. Afterall - he hasnt hit anybody...yet.

Riiiight Rodney.

It would seem you are worried for your safety and that of others. It would seem you are suggesting -- if I do not protect them from this hazard that I see, they will fall victim to him.

And so, are you worried for yourself? Or, are you worried on behalf of others?

Are you saying we should ban him? :grin:

If he is a stalker, and Tika fears for her safety, than that's something she can take to the police. Clearly, she will do what she knows she has to do.

As for my perspective, what I choose to see, and the story that I choose to tell... All I have to say is -- source even loves Hitler. :rolleyes: Are you going to scrutinize me for not resisting him as much as you are?

Nah. He was posing as a woman in order to lend support to Kyle's resentment of womankind.

That's very deceptive. I wonder why he would do a thing like that. I think it reflects poorly on his character. To think, we live in a world where people can't say what they feel openly. A world where one has to hide behind a facade to feel safe enough to say what is on their mind. :rolleyes:

What leads you to think I wasn't speaking from a place of appreciation?

Umm, let's backtrack...

Kyle --- you are a Tool. Believe me when I say this is coming from a place of being Tapped In, Tuned In, and Turned On. I am in my Vortex.

Do you actually believe you channeled that from source?

You have me concerned... either I don't know anything about source frequency, or you don't know anything about source frequency. But one of us has certainly got it wrong. :grin:

I mean, I've heard source say:

You ARE a vibrational being
You ARE non-physical focused into physical form
You ARE adding to the expansion of all that is

But I'm pretty sure they have never said...

You ARE a tool...

They might have playful said something similar, like...

In this moment, you SEEM like a tool. (Or, You're behaving like a tool).

But I can't say I've ever heard them say it the way that you did.

Nightprincessa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 2:09am

I didn't know he raped you. Well, that's a different story altogether.

I don't see anywhere in my post where I said he raped me. I was just giving you an extreme example where you would be so pissed and that's what came to me, but you knew what I meant anyway.

You are just being partial,which I couldn't care less, but it is so obvious. Kyle is the one who started this whole thing, I was not going to post anything about it but he kept going. Maybe, just maybe, you should be neutral cuz you weren't there and don't know what really happened. I am not saying he's a bad person, but he did want a certain response from me and he didn't like it when I wouldn't - the reason being is that he wanted romantic love and not universal love.

Also I offered to return the binder and he got angry instead. Actually, I could reimburse him for the price of my drink and half of the cost of the breadsticks, or I can actually pay for his half as well so he can have the $20 to $25 that he spent the whole evening... and the 3 burned CDs and binder he can have back anytime he wants (and he knows that.)

I can relate to some of your feelings. I will say that I love myself but get very upset when others do not show love towards me.. I think it is because I dont understand what is 'unlovable about me'. I guess on one hand it is good that I know how wonderful I am, but it upsets me when I spend time and money on people who do not appreciate me or so much as give me a phone call.. I think some people out there just enjoy using others for their own benefit.

Not sure if what I am saying is helping, I guess I just needed to vent too. I will say that as a guy, I do not feel that woman should hold 'chivalry' as such an important quality in a man. I have gladly paid for many woman on first dates that never seen a second and it is hard to want to pay for a woman's meal,etc after so many of them do not show any appreciation or gratitude. I met someone recently from my area and really dont feel like that person wants any kind of relationship with me, yet she gladly allowed me to pay for her meals. Why are some woman not honest with us men?

WTF??? her meals!!! LOL... I better laugh!!!

This is the kind of energy that he offers and he says he doesn't understand what is unlovable about him! Besides, he's not offering real love, for that would be unconditional, his love is conditional... this is his energy: I love you, now you have to love me back otherwise you are not worthy and use people ... I will pay for your drink and some snack but with the condition that we start a romantic relationship. And he says he's into Abraham... like I know they teach unconditional love, and yes, it is all about you, but that doesn't mean putting conditions on others.

Anyway Rodney, you believe whatever you want to believe. :rolleyes:

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 2:11am

...and I wonder which posts of his you found helpful.

Most of his posts were good. He had a lot of posts where he shared appreciation.

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 2:53am

Anyways... when I started writing my message to Kyle, I skipped most of the posts in this thread. I haven't been following abetalk for a good couple of days. I had no idea you decided to meet up with him. So at that time, from my perspective, it looked like he was a new member in the forum, and a bunch of people decided to write shit about him. Clearly, I see now that based on what he posted, he deserved the shit-storm that came his way.

My only point was that -- Source even loves Hitler. One can always choose to see someone as inadequate, or as perfect. One can always choose to add to their destruction, or contribute to their well-being. And I was just stating that generally, not at anyone in particular. Had I read the entire thread, I probably wouldn't have bothered posting. I was just a vibrational match to the parts I liked. :grin:

Tika, I didn't mean to communicate any disapproval. I think you handled the situation quite well. In fact, if I was in your physical shoes, I wouldn't have even bothered explaining myself. Because his experience didn't involve you, it was all inside his head. It was all him. And you were an unfortunate bystander. Like those kids that get blown up in Iraq, your vibe was really not having much say in it. If he lived in a different city, it could have been any of us. So I would check this off my list of "shit that happens once in a lifetime, that probably will never happen again. And if it does, at least I can walk away from it faster."

Yep, rather unfortunate. :heart: :namaste:

But you're right, I wasn't there. It wasn't my experience. And thank gawd, because I have enough stupid shit to worry about. Wouldn't want a stalker making me feel insecure as well. The closest thing I've experienced to that is Azzz stalking me as TIFF1...

Pina Colada

Tue Dec 22 2009, 3:10am

Hi AZZZ!

I am so sad tho...Kyle seemed like the perfect man...Who shall I marry now?I really need the green card...*sigh*

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 4:05am

Look out! Pina's stalking guys in the US for a green card!
Pina has some other cards to offer in exchange roflroflrofl

Pina Colada

Tue Dec 22 2009, 5:08am

Hahahahaha girls!:heart:

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 6:04am

Did someone just leave Abetalk and left the door wide open???
I can feel the draft, dammit!

I kinda immediately picked up the hint when he wrote the first post.
It had something fishy about it, the smell wasn't right... And I remember Martha telling us that they met once.
My mind just added things up.

Princesa when I come to San Francisco, you better eat all the breadsticks! I ain't paying for wasted food!! :facelol:
Te quiero!

...& LOL @ Skib!

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 6:42am

How...the fuck....did I miss this thread?!

It's 5:40am and I got outta bed cuz I couldn't sleep...and I find this little gem.

Why is it that whenever someone leaves the forum in a rage it's always preceded by the use of the word cunt? lol

If someone offers to pay....why would anyone refuse?

Don't choose to pay then bitch about paying.

If you're paying because you expect 'something else later'...just skip all that work and go straight to a prostitute.

Or you can just be up front about it...

Want to trade: 1 mojito, 1 order of bread sticks, and 1 microwave Superfood Salisbury steak dinner in exchange for 1 night of sex. Calls only...no emails. P.S. you provide condoms.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 6:56am

Want to trade: 1 mojito, 1 order of bread sticks, and 1 microwave Superfood Salisbury steak dinner in exchange for 1 night of sex. Calls only...no emails. P.S. you provide condoms.
ok mojito mmmmmm, nice trade
bread sticks, sounds tasty
mmm steak sounds fantastic and all that other words around it make it interesting
I'll give you for free , but this is even better
calls only...oh so you don't hear me now, ok
condoms...noooo no condoms
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:CbhDW1FVulWg4M:http://happybrainstorm.com/wp-includes/images/just_say_no.gif
Chamber you are real gentlemen!:facelol:

I kinda immediately picked up the hint when he wrote the first post.

I didn't even know he left
untill you wrote this.
First picture on his avatar was great, second was little scary, though

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:11am

Oh I'd also like to add...

If I was a woman...and a guy opened the car door for me....I'd walk home instead after kicking him in the nutts. Seriously...I'd be offended.

What is this...1950?

"Der der der der...time to open the car door for my mentally challenged date."

Women can join the army now....but they can't open a car door on their own. Yeah...those latches....hi-tech shit.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:17am

can someone answer me fair and earnest
was Marthika girl he was thinking on, when he wrote his first complaining message, or that came out later ?

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:18am

can someone answer me fair and earnest
was Marthika girl he was thinking on, when he wrote his first complaining message, or that came out later ?

Yeah I'd say that's a safe assumption Ana lol

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:19am

Don't choose to pay then bitch about paying.

If you're paying because you expect 'something else later'...just skip all that work and go straight to a prostitute.

Kyle if you're still reading this...
Look, it's great advice, but there's 2 sides to the story.
There are some nasty prozzies out there that might cause you to still bitch about your money loss afterwards.

So it's all about the choices in life. Some you must take with care.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:23am

Yeah I'd say that's a safe assumption Ana lol
in english, please!
I mean than reallllllyyyyyy smart of him

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:30am

Yeah Ana

it is clear that all the woman on here are attention whores. Goodbye abetalk and good riddens. I wont be checking this thread ever again so feel free to make as many comments as you like without the fear of a responce that puts you in your place. Peace losers.

Ahhhhh that's sad. He misses out on our advice.

Oh I'd also like to add...

If I was a woman...and a guy opened the car door for me....I'd walk home instead after kicking him in the nutts. Seriously...I'd be offended.

What is this...1950?

"Der der der der...time to open the car door for my mentally challenged date."

Women can join the army now....but they can't open a car door on their own. Yeah...those latches....hi-tech shit.

lol Chris!

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:33am

attention whore , hahhahahahahaahahahaahaaha
Tony you attention whore , shut up! omg hahahahahahahahahahaaaaa:facelol:rofl :facelol::clap:rofl :facelol: hahahahahahaahhahahahahaha

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:35am

I don't see the problem. I :heart: all you attention whores.

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:36am

in english, please!

Ditto Ana.

:facelol:

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 7:48am

Ditto Ana.

:facelol:
hhiihihihihiihi :kiss:

I don't see the problem. I :heart: all you attention whores.
we should start our threads with:
My I have your attention please - attention whores ?

Mariposa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:15am

I get lost here, read a lot of pages, but I wanna say two things:

NOBODY is perfect, so stop saying it's a CHOICE to view some1 as perfect or not: don't waste your time viewing sum1 as perfect, no1 is.

I am sick of this whole ''IT'S ALL YOU'' or ''IT'S ALL HIM'' crap.

Both had a part on this, which doesn't mean we will DEFINE THEM as an asshole or an asshole magnet, which is just too much.

I still don't understand why you had to make it so public, but the benefit is we got to watch, but I'm not sure it's a good thing because it makes me feel no1 can be trusted. At the same time it gives me relief to know I'm not the only one experiencing contrast in relationships, I mean, look at all of this contrast after just one date, look at aaaaaaaaaaaaaall the contrast I went through after two months, I just wonder how people stay married for 50 years, it feels like impossible.

What can we learn from this? Stop calling names and saying crap, for real, what can we truly learn from this? Maybe it's not a lesson for us, but for them, it really is personal. But I see every1 shows their true colors when this kinda thing happens...

And I am scared cuz I gave another guy my number, and I am also wondering if he thinks we will date or just meet?

If you say it so soon, isn't it like a rejection?

''HI, I am glad to meet you for coffee, but THERE WILL BE NO SEX. Not tonight, not ever.''

Why are relationships or even dating or even having friends so contrasty? :rolleyes:

LOL TIKA I SAID DATE!! I didn't mean it, I just meant to say encounter... or meeting. :p

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:33am

And I am scared cuz I gave another guy my number, and I am also wondering if he thinks we will date or just meet?

If you say it so soon, isn't it like a rejection?

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as long as I know history of your relationships, I would say that you search outside yourself. This sounds as a theory, really - nor this thread is place - but you used it as well, so... but my point is kinda-you choose someone and then you want him to behave as you would want him to behave, and he doesn't. There are real matches to you out there, as well, but you tend to pick someone and expect him to be the one. Then you're angry on him and so on. And there is where all that contrast is from. You always focus at the guy as there is noone else in the Universe. Or at least I saw it that way, from stories I know about. And why are you scared?- you haven't gained self love and self respect to a level that nothing outside can shake you that much.
If you're good enough for yourself, than if you aren't for someone else, that touches you zero. ...

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:37am

This is very very simple....

The problem in any and all relationships is the other person.

lol

Mariposa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:45am

alright Ana, I will be alone all my life... thanks

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:46am

alright Ana, I will be alone all my life... thanks
well when you are once for real alone, he will come.

cigi

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:48am

C'mon guys, really. This thread is supposed to be about what an asshole Kyle is...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/nancitaf/AttentionWhore.jpg

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:51am

tread breaker rule maker

Mariposa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 8:56am

as long as I know history of your relationships, I would say that you search outside yourself. This sounds as a theory, really - nor this thread is place - but you used it as well, so... but my point is kinda-you choose someone and then you want him to behave as you would want him to behave, and he doesn't. There are real matches to you out there, as well, but you tend to pick someone and expect him to be the one. Then you're angry on him and so on. And there is where all that contrast is from. You always focus at the guy as there is noone else in the Universe. Or at least I saw it that way, from stories I know about. And why are you scared?- you haven't gained self love and self respect to a level that nothing outside can shake you that much.
If you're good enough for yourself, than if you aren't for someone else, that touches you zero. ...

Ok, I have wanted to say this for years now and I will do it now.

Ana, your English is weird! I dunno if it's the language or it's just the way you talk, but I don't understand you well.

And it's NOT ABOUT ME. It's about languages, that are structures to be respected so that we all understand each other.

So you say I choose some1 and want them to behave they way I want them to behave, now PLEASE some1 tell me, show hands, WHO IN HERE DOESN'T expect anything from any1 at all?

If you are driving, you expect other's to stop when the traffic lights say so. If you buy something you expect it to be of quality. If you become friends with some1 you expect them to behave in a friendly way. We are in this together, and I am sick and tired of being told that IT'S ALL ME, fuck me!

I didn't give this guy my number cuz I want HIM to be the one. I am not expecting the WORLD from him. I just realized that I need to get the fuck outta my house, and get the fuck away from this computer and go hang out with other humans from my city. It distracts me from wanting to fucking die all the time. It makes me feel I can be a fun girl who can hang out and say stupid things and make another person laugh.

I just don't wanna get involved in a Kyle and Tika kinda thing, I want friends, since no1 is going to love me as a gf bacause I don't love myself enough, so let's just go have some fun and hope not to bumb into more assholes.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:00am

. I just realized that I need to get the fuck outta my house
I understand your english pretty well

Pina Colada

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:02am

and I am sick and tired of being told that IT'S ALL ME, fuck me!And yet you somehow manage to turn ANYTHING around,so it's all about YOU lol.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:05am

And yet you somehow manage to turn ANYTHING around,so it's all about YOU lol.
yes, you're just another attention whore here! http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:SGRPedyd2eIDYM:http://www.polyvore.com/cgi/img-thing%3F.out%3Djpg%26size%3Dl%26tid%3D1926915

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:08am

Relationships were a great idea until people came along and ruined it for everyone.

Mariposa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:08am

ok, now this is nonsense... I'm out girls.

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:15am

C'mon guys, really. This thread is supposed to be about what an asshole Kyle is...

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j164/nancitaf/AttentionWhore.jpg
Omg Cigi why is it that I sometimes see picture sometimes just:photobucket
http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/attention-whore/2/AttentionWhore-poster.jpg

cigi

Tue Dec 22 2009, 9:17am

Omg Cigi why is it that I sometimes see picture sometimes just:photobucket

OH YAY! You fixed it. Thanks, Ana.^^

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:09am

sex is like food to men; women's bodies are like fuckable food.

:mad:
to some men, do you know every man on Earth?

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:12am

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:24am

http://www.smeski.com/razni/smejoci/rottfl.gif:clap: a hahahhahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa http://www.smeski.com/razni/smejoci/thud.gifhttp://www.smeski.com/razni/smejoci/odvaljot.gif

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 11:58am

well I'm kinda woman that was behaving as man and from my experiance not every heterosexual man behaving as you say they do!
go figure

Nightprincessa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:12pm

Can I be the new poet now?

---------------------I AM KYLE
-----------------Buying chicks a dinner
-------------Not getting hot action I desire
---------The wallet getting thinner and thinner
----To a point, questioning the behaviour of the girls
--Knowing it's not me, instead crazy rules of our worlds
You cunts and bitches, my popularity shrunk to low levels
Forum against me, the men and women, all buncha rebels
---Epic Abetalk fail, what have I been doing so wrong
----Thought I'd score some hot sexy babe, all along
-------Attention whores all over the damn place
---------This definately not my pie and space
--------------Why did I act like such a tool
----------------Misbehaved, so uncool
----------------------I AM OUT

OMG!!!! Toni!!!! HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

This poem is totally hilarious!!!!

rofl rofl rofl

And Chris! There was no steak at all!!! :joylick: Just one mojito and some breadsticks that we both shared!!! XD OOooh and he didn't open the door for me at all... did he say that!!?? :o damn, if he did, he must have just thought about it and it never actually materialized. :facelol:

Skibby, haha but that's his problem if he wants action. Actually he did mention about me being full of sexiness lol... but he said it a couple of days later. However he did say I was beautiful (which I appreciate) and he couldn't stop looking at me... and well, yes I noticed that. But I was in my own bliss talking passionately about spirituality, and I am very expressive haha... but still, it is his problem is he wants to have sex with me.

And no, I didn't want to have sex with him cuz I didn't feel it, I didn't feel the attraction at all, except as friends. :p

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:29pm

And no, I didn't want to have sex with him cuz I didn't feel it, I didn't feel the attraction at all, except as friends. :p

my first thought was that he looks to immature for you ž
obviously not his first

Rodney

Tue Dec 22 2009, 1:50pm

If I was a woman...and a guy opened the car door for me....I'd walk home instead after kicking him in the nutts. Seriously...I'd be offended.

What is this...1950?

"Der der der der...time to open the car door for my mentally challenged date."

Women can join the army now....but they can't open a car door on their own. Yeah...those latches....hi-tech shit.

Chamber, you silly goat :grin:

+100 reputation points. I think this is going in the quote hall-of-fame.

So, my last question to you, based on the thoughts you've shared is, If you are really seeing through the eyes of Source, would you see any comment LESS THAN an expression of unconditional love?

Great question! I was hi-vibing for the past couple of days. It was such that when I came to abetalk, I wouldn't feel pulled to read any threads. So I would just leave.

But then I came into this thread for a moment, skimmed it, and felt like leaving some love. At which point I allowed myself to get attached to this discussion, which I feel is on the whole blown out of proportion. Instead of being concerned for my frequency, I became concerned about logic, the unfolding of events, and who is stalking who.

So yes, you're right. I had to lower my vibration to enter this thread. Source wouldn't even notice this conversation. Source, that is focused only on appreciation, would not be a match to see this thread exists.

But most certainly, I think that many of the energies flowing in this thread had a source-blocking nature to them. A nature that restricts well-being. And I think seeing it any other way is simply slapping a happy-face sticker on it. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'll just let this thread go now. Bye pumpkin! :namaste:

Nightprincessa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 2:24pm

I am now, today, seeing all of this in an amused way.

It is all here for my entertainment and fun... so yea! :D

Life is fucking awesome!!! :love:

asjairok

Tue Dec 22 2009, 3:31pm

Source wouldn't even notice this conversation. Source, that is focused only on appreciation, would not be a match to see this thread exists.

and we had so much fun
what is it 11:11 - Jody language? :kiss1::kiss1::kiss1::kiss1::kiss1: My source sees this thread and it laughs !

Toni

Tue Dec 22 2009, 4:03pm

All is well. I respect the concerns.
But serously, I'm taking nothing serious now. I've been laughing all day long. I turn on the news and laugh my ass off now. Fuck it.

We dream at night and then we think we wake up, but instead we step right into this day dream. I'm making this daydream a funny one where everything is comedy to me!

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 4:04pm

And Chris! There was no steak at all!!! :joylick: Just one mojito and some breadsticks that we both shared!!! XD OOooh and he didn't open the door for me at all... did he say that!!?? :o damn, if he did, he must have just thought about it and it never actually materialized. :facelol:

I know there was no steak but I had to crowbar Superfood into my joke somehow.

I don't think he said he did....just something about being a perfect gentleman on dates and opening car doors.

Girls don't wanna bang perfect gentlemen...perfect gentlemen are creepy.

http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/celebrity-pictures-fred-rogers-get-along.jpg

Oh and excellent poem Toni.....but Skibby is the true poet here. :facelol:

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 4:54pm

Skibbys last post reminded me of this....

YouTube- Chris Rock Offer dick

roflroflrofl

Chamber

Tue Dec 22 2009, 5:14pm

Skib....you're killing me dude. :facelol:

And BTW I agree with you 100%.

But who's to say....maybe Tika was ready to tackle him naked when she showed up....then after 5min he said something stupid and showed what kinda dildo he really is. lol

Nightprincessa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 5:25pm

SKIBBY AND CHRIS!!!!!! :facelol: HAHAHAHAAAAAAA XD

roflroflroflroflrofl

sara

Tue Dec 22 2009, 5:40pm

QUOTE=Chamber;80429]

YouTube- Chris Rock Offer dick[/QUOTE]

I just laughed and laughed and :facelol: :grin: :joylick: :facelol: :joylick: :facelol:

...And is this not what tiff1 said???..Just sayin..

I like to laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:grin:
And besides,
I am going to chose to feel good
....to think that I am being offered sooo much dick / sex!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..it makes me smile:heart: :grin::heart::heart::D:heart::grin:

Nightprincessa

Tue Dec 22 2009, 10:38pm

LMAO Tracy!!! XD

That's hella funny!!! :facelol: :facelol: :facelol:

Mariposa

Wed Dec 23 2009, 7:55am

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/GreEnFairiGodDeSs/icons/OMG.gif

this thread has turned into the most hilarious one of all times!

roflroflrofl

Skibby and Chamb I love you guys!! Leah your bit was AWESOME!! :joylick: love YOU!

And Tracy, I loved your posts too :love: And Facebook friends with benefits! :facelol:

was it mariposa who wondered aloud if women should just be upfront?yes it was me! :facelol: I am afraid of all of this, to be honest. So I go to this guy who invited me over to his place to have some mate ...

http://chespanish.com/images/Web_Che_tomando_mate.jpg

and I walk in his apartment, sit down, grab the mate and say:

So yeah, glad you invited me over, would love to talk about music and singing but just so you know, sex is outta the question, you still wanna do this or... should I let myself out?

Nightprincessa

Wed Dec 23 2009, 12:46pm

and I walk in his apartment, sit down, grab the mate and say:

So yeah, glad you invited me over, would love to talk about music and singing but just so you know, sex is outta the question, you still wanna do this or... should I let myself out?

LOL... Way to go Maris! XD

I guess this is the new rule for meeting with someone and dates. You just never know, a sip from that mate he offered could've cost you a lot... and if you didn't do your duty you could be called a user! :facelol:

sara

Wed Dec 23 2009, 8:19pm

[QUOTE=Mariposa;80474]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/GreEnFairiGodDeSs/icons/OMG.gif
And just what size is that???
I could not get a size bigger than 7 or 8 ????:heart::grin::heart:''
oh great size queen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:heart::queen::heart:

GoddessNextDoor

Wed Dec 23 2009, 8:53pm

Tricky, ain't it. A guy you fancy asks you out. Not a problem.

A nice guy you DON'T fancy asks you out. Now the conundrum begins. He said just a walk in the park and a cup of coffee. Maybe he even spread his hands, gave a reassuring smile and said he's only looking for someone he can talk to and you fit the bill. So you go along with this, and at the end of it he suggests you meet up again. Your gut is saying something's off, but you're single and you know if this was another woman you'd have no hesitation in making a friend.

At some point he says how great you are, or you see that look in his eye, and you KNOW. What a horrible feeling that is. You haven't got a new friend, you've got someone who's looking for a Relationship.

So you call him on it subtly or otherwise. And then the rejected lover shows himself. You? You've gotta be kidding. You're so full of yourself. Why do you think every man has to fall in love with you or he's got something wrong with his hormones? Take a good look in the mirror, sister. You're not that hot.

What do you do? It happens to every woman. It happens more to non-assertive women who don't have much of a social life. It happened to me more times than I care to think about, and I never resolved it.

Then there was the guy I fancied who asked me out and genuinely wanted to be my friend. Ouch. But that's a whole nother chapter.

You nailed it, Leah. I'm so done with THAT story. XD

Chamber

Wed Dec 23 2009, 9:18pm

sara

Wed Dec 23 2009, 9:44pm

In your post it has a background, Nancy-Lou, so I'm guessing it's been made into a picture.

What a good idea!

??? I do not understand?
I think that you are being very kind and giving me too much credit.:heart::grin::heart:
And thank you and open to your love!!!:heart::love::heart:

GoddessNextDoor

Wed Dec 23 2009, 9:50pm

Hey here's a new revolutionary idea....

How bout instead of telling the guys you don't wanna fuck that you don't wanna fuck them...

Instead you tell the guys who you DO wanna fuck that you DO wanna fuck them.

Nah nevermind....that makes too much sense.
:facelol:

When I finally meet a guy that I DO wanna get nekkid with, I'll be sure to tell him. It would be nice if he showed up sometime soon. :facelol:

sara

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:06pm

When I finally meet a guy that I DO wanna get nekkid with, I'll be sure to tell him. It would be nice if he showed up sometime soon. :facelol:

AHMEN SISTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :joylick: :grin: :love: :rolleyes: :joylick:

Chamber

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:11pm

When I finally meet a guy that I DO wanna get nekkid with, I'll be sure to tell him. It would be nice if he showed up sometime soon. :facelol:

Oh just say Fuck....there's no point in using euphemisms.

If you have a hard time saying it analogically....you'll have just as hard of a time saying it in reality.

Or you can practice "Hey let's get naked! But I don't wanna have sex with you....just so you know ahead of time."

So repeat after me Lani....and type this out....and post it here....

"When I finally meet a guy that I DO wanna http://i.ytimg.com/vi/26UA578yQ5g/1.jpg I'll be sure to tell him."

Then........watch Magic happen.

TIFF1

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:20pm

You guys are a riot, thanks! How did AZZ get put into this anyway?

TIFF1

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:28pm

I do think it is a problem how a lot ofmen think of women. Kind of like men with different sex organs. Try seeing how you like bledding every month & having jerks mess with you then you guys can talk real. That is what I think.

Chamber

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:30pm

I don't think any of the shrinking violets on Babetalk have a problem with that, Chamber. What we have an issue with is the guys who tell us they want a friend but are :o LYING.

The river of bullshit flows both ways my dear.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qsDpLDiIGuk/SZGLKppW7DI/AAAAAAAABMo/pzRZrDIKGYQ/s320/ying-yang.20424130_std.jpg

So...be who you really are and disregard the rest as nothing more than reverberation.

TIFF1

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:34pm

AZZ is in Cancun with his son and daughter inlaw. Well not really with them, it's their mini-moon. He went to see one of his old teachers who is dying. Were hoping he makes it bakc becuase his passport is fake.

TIFF1

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:38pm

Well just make up what feels good to you anyway no matters.

Im just housesitting his place i;;ll find another thing to do than this. Be well.

Chamber

Wed Dec 23 2009, 10:51pm

Bledding every month isn't a problem for most of us, Azzz. Try again.

If a girl tells you she wants to be friends with you, it's easily possible she would like more. She's unlikely to get online if you rebuff her and tell the world you're old, ugly and a tramp, though.

Oh let go of the Kyle bulllshit.....you're just identifying with what was said (or in relation) to Tika.

LMAO....Kyle......

Yes of course it's "possible" she would like more...there's an infinite number of possibilities.

Are you a Creator....or a whimpering slug who's looking for possibilities?

YouTube- George Carlin - Goofy Boy Names (HQ)

GoddessNextDoor

Thu Dec 24 2009, 12:24am

Oh just say Fuck....there's no point in using euphemisms.

If you have a hard time saying it analogically....you'll have just as hard of a time saying it in reality.

Or you can practice "Hey let's get naked! But I don't wanna have sex with you....just so you know ahead of time."

So repeat after me Lani....and type this out....and post it here....

"When I finally meet a guy that I DO wanna http://i.ytimg.com/vi/26UA578yQ5g/1.jpg I'll be sure to tell him."

Then........watch Magic happen.

Fuck you, Chris. Happy now? :facelol: I have no problem saying "Fuck", but to be honest, I've never liked the way it looks in print- it's so harsh. So I don't type it very often. Weird, I know.

sara

Fri Dec 25 2009, 12:53pm

Just a brief note...
concerning opening car doors :-)

to add some clarification to all you wonderful guys...I love guys :-)
What we gals desire can be confusing to you wonderful guys at times...

Stating up front :
I live in the USA ,
south of the mason dixie line,
and I am over 30...
Cuz peeps have different expectations in different areas of the world and in different age categories maybe :-)...

It might be more helpful for you to go with your inner feelings..and just in each situation do what feels good to you and most loving for your date/ girl friend...

For example....
In the past month I have had 2 experiences of very much liking having the car door opened for me.....
#1=
the first was me sitting in a small sports car convertible..we were driving for like 2 hours..my butt sat on the road :facelol: :o :shock: and my knees where like in my throat! :o :shock: :rolleyes: :shock: :facelol: .I ask to be helped out of this car..not just open the door but give me a hand and help to pull me out of this spaceship like capsule :facelol::heart::joylick::heart::facelol:..I had not gotten my sea legs yet after having them all crumped up for 2 hours..I had to ask for it!!!!!!! (It would of been nice, if he had seen that it would of helped me without me asking ..and it was fine...cuz, I feel fine about asking for assistance.:-)

#2=
the other time just a week ago..it was raining hard , just before it changed to snow and our Blizzard...My date had a large umbrella and he said "just stay put and I will come and get you out of the car!!!!
I sooo appreciated that= as I had no umbrella and my hair wilts in the rain :grin: :(
and we were going to the most expensive resturrant in town for dinner...
where every one would know me and see me (I live in a town of less than 75,000 peeps)
and I did have to ask him if he would take my hand and again it was to make it easier for me to get out of his sporty Mercate Benz...

And some times I get myself out of the car..

so for me it is back to..... in each moment
."how does it feel???"
...And how can I get my needs meet ...
and if I were the guy."How could I best be loving and helpful to my date"...each case is or can be different!.

There are just no clear lines anymore :-)..
And isn't that wonderful...
cuz we get to use our inner guidance system in each
moment :-)

Just my feelings...
this may not work or relate to any other peeps ..:-):heart::love::heart::grin::heart:

TIFF1

Sun Dec 27 2009, 3:48pm

Thats fine everyone has a right to their oinion thanks for sharing no matters. Merlin knowsw who I am and my trauma hisrty why I dont type as well as anyway. Hatefilled dark energy people dont impress on me so yeah bye and be wellRod, Lea, Skip.

Btrightlafylady, I laghed at your cute tale of being helped out of a sport car and it helped me to be glad too because for a couple yrs I had to be jelped IN cars as well as out! Really thqat was a breakthrough for meto be able to laugh about thank you so much! I wont pst much becdause I know its hard for pepole to read and not so eaqsdy for me sometimesbut I will read you and other good ones sometimes days are better than others just wanted to let you know I liked it and it helped me. :heart:

sara

Sun Dec 27 2009, 4:22pm

... my trauma hisrty why I dont type as well as anyway. ...
Btrightlafylady, I laghed at your cute tale of being helped out of a sport car and it helped me to be glad too because for a couple yrs I had to be jelped IN cars as well as out! Really thqat was a breakthrough for meto be able to laugh about thank you so much!
...I wont pst much becdause I know its hard for pepole to read and not so eaqsdy for me sometimesbut I will read you and other good ones sometimes days are better than others just wanted to let you know I liked it and it helped me. :heart:

DEAR ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU BRING TEARS TO MY EYES!!!!!!!!!:heart::heart::heart:
YOUR KINDNESS TOUCHES ME DEEPLY!:heart::love::heart::love::heart:
WHAT A GIFT THAT YOU GIVE TO ME TO SHARE WITH ME THAT IN ANY WAY I HAVE HELPED YOU!!!!!...MY HEART SOARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:super::downstream1: :fireworks:
FUNNY, STRANGE = HOW IT IS EASY FOR ME TO READ YOUR POSTS :heart::grin::heart:...I have no problems at all:heart::grin::heart:
:pie: I SAY YOU POST ANY TIME THAT YOU FEEL LIKE IT..IF IT FEELS GOOD YOU DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!! :heart::grin::heart:

Each of us has had / and is having our journey up the mountain..You are not alone! and just think how far you have come! Appreciate that! I can remember years ago I was soo ill the Drs. thought I may not make it, lost my wonderful career, husband left me, no $...and look at me and you now!!!!
We are survivers and thrivers!!!!!!!!!!!
Yea for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Each one of us is doing / feeling better NOW than we did at some other point in our lives..
and Horray for that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:heart::grin::heart::lo ve::heart::heart::joylick::heart:
:hug::applause::kiss5::clap::drum::heart::heart:

Mariposa

Mon Dec 28 2009, 1:30pm

Nancy you are the cutest! Loving your attitude, so open, so allowing. Opening car doors does make sense sometimes and it's not just old fashioned etiquette, it's actual help, it expresses something of value. Loved how you reminded us all that there are no longer rules and it all depends on the situation, so true.

Now I wanna reply to Skibby when he said:

sex is like food to men; women's bodies are like fuckable food. to which Ana said:

to some men, do you know every man on Earth?
And then you said:

I know every heterosexual man on Earth!

I am heterosexual. I am a man. I know myself, therefore I know the essence of all heterosexual men---even the ones who pretend to be icons of rom-coms and see women as more than just sex objects first, people second.You so don't know every heterosexual man on Earth Skibby, I am sorry you haven't met any heterosexual man who actually cares about women as a Whole... :facelol:

I know myself, therefore I know the essence of all heterosexual men---DUDE!! wtf, you are more sensible than this, that was a total falace.

I know I can NOT speak for one single woman besides myself. I know women that are so different to me, who see men differently, just like all else. I don't believe all men are like you, or are the same. I totally believe in men that see women as much more than fuckable food, jesus. Speak for yourself, or speak in the name of assholes if you will, but all straight men? Jeez, if it were for you, we're all screwed.

I'm not saying you're completely wrong, I do have a sense all men do think of sex, but not necessarily sex only. I do believe in men who are interested in how we feel and how we think and non-sex related stuff about us. Correct me if I'm wrong, but your perspective about men seeing women as fuckable food is kind of revolting... :confused: not my pie anyway... or do you have anything to add to make it seem less revolting? :p

and LOL LEAH! :facelol: I had to google ''omg'' to find a big version of it! And then posted it as a pic, cuz I dunno how they make those huge fonts... XD I didn't type it and make it a pic, I just googled :p but yours is also a good idea for LOLS and stuff, I'll keep it in mind.

I guess this is the new rule for meeting with someone and dates. You just never know, a sip from that mate he offered could've cost you a lot... and if you didn't do your duty you could be called a user! :facelol:Tika, I do fear being called a user now! What is more, I feel like one about this friend of mine who I'm seeing more often now, hope he knows his

All the rest (the nice guy routine) is just a patient set-up to get into your pants eventually. is not gonna work :shock: ...

sara

Mon Dec 28 2009, 4:27pm

..........

I just saw this and I could barely read it..
is it a pic of one of your paintings????:heart:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

THANK YOU MY BEAUTIFUL SMART MARIS!!:joylick::love::grin:

And this is a note to guys..

If you want in our panties.........................:o :grin: :joylick:
.
It is similar to how you eat a watermelon...:facelol: :joylick: :facelol:
one small bite at a time...:bluelol:roflrofl:bluelol:

start with small steps..:shock:
touch us somewhere non sexual first...:rolleyes: :o :shock: :joylick:

this is where the helping one out of a car
...or jumping out of a big truck..( I like help here too :grin: ) can work in your male favor!!
if you put your hand out to help her and she takes your hand.! you have contact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..easy step to holding hands ...or grabbing for his arm ...or arms around each other as you walk to where ever you are going...
these are the small steps that can lead up to a big pay off later....:grin:
everything that you do with each other is fore play..:grin:

not to do it expecting a pay off..
do what ever you do as always
=BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD IN THIS NOW!

Well as Maris says..this is just what usually works on me ...gals are different :heart::grin::heart: