Abraham and astrology – do they match?

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[Deva]

Guest
I will give you some examples. One would be the whole idea of
going to psychics for readings. The whole idea then of us having
psychic ability and trying to develop that ourselves in order to give
psychic readings.
The idea of Astrology and the value of that.?

Abraham:
Most importantly is your own connection to your own Inner Being,
because that sort of guidance comes forth moment by moment.
In other words there is just nothing that is more important than
that!!

The value of a psychic is the same sort of value as you Inner Being
in a dream state . In other words a psychic can tap into YOUR energy
and know sort of where you are going.

If you find a psychic that is very good at it, and there are some
that are very good at it. In other words when you understand the Laws
of the Universe. And when you understand that energy in the NOW is a
projection of what your future is, then it is not difficult to tap
into what the greater probability will be.

BUT it is only a PROBABILITY.

And so if you are going to a psychic counselor the way to utilize the
psychic is to hear and if it is good news Then embrace it and
anticipate it. And if it is bad news then poke around it with a stick
a little bit...acknowledge what you don't want, let it help you
identify what you do want . Then begin giving full , fuller attention
to what you do want.
Many psychics that we have seen involved with others. Have a very
difficult time separating one persons energy from another. And so
sometimes you might get a dose of what she was picking up from the
last one . Or even a little bit of what she is living in her own
experience.
You are always far better off interacting with your OWN
connectedness. And so we say by all means develop that to the
fullest . Get really really good at following your own
heart.Following your own gut feeling . Follow your bliss and use
psychics or even Abraham in this sense for entertainment by
comparison.

In other words your connection with your own Inner Being is THE most
important . And anything else is FAR FAR FAR FAR down on the list.

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Astrology .
The astrologers that we have seen interacting with physical beings
are far more psychics than they are astrologers.
In other words the really good ones are the ones that are tapping in
on the energy in the NOW . Not the ones that are just reading from a
book or trying to establish something from your date of birth.

IF you were able to come forth into a physical body an NEVER think
another thought … and we've not met any of you that were able to
do that. But if you were able to do that then we would say the
psychic coding or the timing of your birth would pretty well
establish who you are going to be for ever more.
But since you have the ability in every moment of your day to think
and therefore to attract. And therefore to ALTER THE FUTURE
EXPERIENCE!
Then we would say that we would not put too much upon that other than
to let it serve as a guide to help you identify where you are
relative to where you want to be.


Extract from Abraham-Hicks tape G-9/26/92.

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To me, they don't match.

But that's me, my perspective. If it feels good, keep following it! :)

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[Violet]

Hey everyone,

I have the Paranormal CD and luckily found that Tracy on the abeforum had already transcribed it:

Guest: I am very grateful to be here. I am an astrologer, so I come from that perspective. And Abraham teachings have really been resonating in me all my life, although I've never been able to write them down within a coordinated way. But, what is that horoscope, or that birth pattern of vibrational energy, what is it's effect upon us as Beings and our point of vibrational attraction? I look at it in the sense that I would look at a chart, and it's kinda like: This Is What You're Here For, you know, it kinda gives you an impetus down that line - not that you can't change it. But, what is the meaning, I guess, of Astrology in our lives?

<There is much of Abe's answer that has not been included in this transcript, as I wanted to stay focused with that part of the answer as it relates to our Intent, either as individuals, or as soul clusters, when coming forth.>

Abe: Well, the Laws of this Universe are not only about your physical offering of Laws. In other words, the Laws of the Universe are consistent throughout the Universe. They are consistent with the physical expression that is You; They are consistent with the non-physical expression that is You. So, it is not the perfect analogy but you will get the sense of it when you understand that the non-physical part of you, just like the physical part of you, is evaluating contrast and launching desires and that launching of desire, you might say, from the non-physical perspective as it relates to the physical earth experience that you are wishing for, or hoping for, or creating for from your non-physical perspective - that is that stream, or that path, that is later being charted as Astrology. It is the Intent that was held from the non-physical perspective as you made your decision to come forth into the physical experience.

Guest: So, if your chart is a representation of your past of what you brought in from the non-physical, I would think - for my own self - I would like to pay attention to that....

Abe: And we would encourage you to do that, too, if there were any way for someone outside of you to accurately predict, or read, that chart. The premise, or the idea of the chart, gives you the focal point, which causes you to focus upon the question and you are intuitively receiving the answer.

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Now, we are not in any way wanting to imply that there is not value and truth to this science. What we are saying to you is that you have within you a guidance system that is far more accurate and not distorted by impressions and interpretations that have come along the way . If you could come forth into your physical body and never think a thought once you got here, then we would say, carry your chart around and try very hard to stand in the places that it encourages you to stand.

But because you are a creator, accept the power of your Now and embrace the contrast that is there and feel the power of the new idea or the new determination that is within you, and then reach for the vibration of well-being and allow yourself to be the creator that you've come forth to be. That which is your Inner Being is an expanding thing.

So, if your Inner Being had a plan for you, prior to coming here, it was a plan that was general in nature, it was a plan that said "I will be of value"; it was a plan that said, "I will have a lovely time;" it was a plan that said "I know I am a valuable person;" it was a plan that said "I am Loved, I am Love"; it was a plan that said "Well-being abounds"; it was a plan that said, "Only a source of well-being exists"; it was a plan that said "Life is suppose to be good"; it was a strong, significant, but by physical terms, a general sort of plan of well-being and you said, "I will fill the details in once I am there." Many will say, "Did I choose the specifics of what I was living, because if I did I chose wrong because I would have rather been born in Malibu." And we say, you chose, but you were choosing vibrationally and you cannot use your physical standards in order to understand the perfection of your choices.

You see, otherwise, some people are believing that they are not valuable creators; that they are somehow invaluable or unworthy participants and that God, or whatever It is, has it all figured out and that you're here somehow to do something, but you're not sure what it is, maybe prove some sort of worthiness to something that is greater. And we say, Isn't it wonderful when you finally, consciously realize that you are extension of that which you are calling God and that everything is perfect for you and the contrast gives you the new idea, ahhh - the joy of life is within you in that moment, that birthing of the idea is the extension of God-force or of Life-force!

And then, as you look at it, and imagine it, and pretend it, and find vibrational harmony with it, and allow it to flesh out and fill out, and be the experience of your life experience, now you are having the satisfaction experience that, even from your broader, non-physical perspective, you knew you would create, but you did not necessarily know the details of how it would be created. <snip>

Astrology sounds a little bit like more of it has been pre-determined so there is less for you to do other than find your path and allow it to Be. While what we are saying to you is You came forth with the Intent to determine otherwise you would not have come forth. Your perspective and opinion matters because it is a summoning mechanism, you see. And what is at the basis of that misunderstanding, and what is the basis of the new understanding that is feeling so good to you in remembering it, is that this Universe is based upon attraction and there is no assertion. So there cannot even be non-physical energy, or soul energy asserting itself into the clump of flesh called You. Yes, it is very good.

I have a dear friend, Janet, who is an astrologer who is a master at reading energy through the lense os astrology. My fiance, Tom, reads Tarot cards. Both of them are Absters and now they joke about how they give Abe readings. Both (as well as reading palms, etc...) are ways to read energy as to what someone's current vibration is. Both Janet and Tom always weave into their readings that there is no assertion in the Universe and that what you create in your life is determined by what you are thinking and feeling NOW vs. anything predetermined or how the stars are aligned. Janet was in the hotseat and asked Abraham about the influence of how the stars were aligned that day. Abraham replied, "None."

I confess it is a bit amusing to me to hear my friends carry on how mercruy is in retrograde and how that is impacting their life. And sure enough, because that is their belief, things are a big chaotic.

When I first came to Abraham I felt incredibly liberated with having a brand new way to view soul contracts, astrology, karma, etc... Talk about having freedom! Nothing is influencing me other than what I choose to think and feel in this moment. How could something "perdetermined" jive with LOA?

Love,Silky (aka Violet)

[Violet]

To rephrase it: Is there any law beside the Law of Attraction :?:

Or: Does the law of gravity exist or does it only exist because we believe that it does :?:

:heart: Stefanie[/quote]

Hi Stephanie,
My fiance, Tom, has asked Abraham about how other laws, specifically gravity, entertwine with LOA. This exchange is on the third CD of the 9-8-07 San Antonio recording. Basically, LOA triumphs over all other laws.

Love,Silky (aka Violet)

[asjairok]

Janet was in the hotseat and asked Abraham about the influence of how the stars were aligned that day. Abraham replied, "None."

Silky (aka Violet)
rofl :clap: :queen: :lol: :lol: :kiss:

[asjairok]

Once I had a vision, planet with eyes lips, and face-ok, waited for my thoughts to decide how it would influence me today rofl