EFT v Pivoting

[Bodhi]

Hi, dear friends :kiss3:

I've been wondering about the difference between EFT (emotional freedom technique) and pivoting, mainly because I don't know EFT. I just know that by tapping their bodies in a certain way people can release their resistance.

Now I've never felt pulled to this way of releasing resistance, and still don't ... probably coz I'm happy with my pivoting and I LOVE being able to pivot through my thoughts only.

But I would still appreciate hearing your story.

If those of you who know both EFT and pivoting answer my three questions, that would be super:

1. If you prefer EFT, why do you feel it is better for you?
2. If you prefer pivoting, why do you feel it is better for you?
3. If you're using both techniques, then when do you think EFT is easier to use and why?

Eagerly awaiting your replies. :clap:

[Tai]

Hi Tasha
I don't know exactly what pivoting is.. I always imagined it's a turning around of your thoughts, just find better feeling thoughts, is that right?
If that's true, than I use both. I haven't used EFT for a long time, but I still love it. And on one moment I prefer EFT, on the other I prefer pivoting.

The reason I prefer EFT sometimes, is because it makes pivoting easier.
Sometimes I can find better feelign thoughts, but they just don't do anything for my emotions. Then I am so stuck in the emotion, that I can't get myself out of it with only another thought. I am not able to really feel it, so to speak.
And with EFT, I can first take away to negative emotion. When I tap for a few rounds, the emotion goes away, and naturally another feeling comes up, a better feelign one. With deliberately choosing a better feeling thought in that moment, I can sort of guide myself to what I want to feel.

There are moments where I can find a better feeling thought and really feel it, or I can just turn my attention from the subject that makes me feel bad. But a lot of the times the negative though comes back after a while. With EFT I can clean it up better as well.

Love ya :love:

[Wideyed]

Hello,

I was doing EFT on the regular for quite a while but i didnt really like it. Found myself focusing on what i didn't want too much and it left me feeling worse alot of the time lol.

The problem i had was that alot of shit stressed me and i would tap 1 thing and then feel better, then usually i would think of the next problem, tap that out, feel better, then the next prob and so forth. So i would feel good if i tapped everything out but then like the next day pretty much i was back to normal stressing about the same things so i'd have to start again haha.

I prefer just focusin on the good stuff, bit of pivoting and i use the Awakening Joy technique to get that good feelin happening as often as possible.

Ciao

[AttractionFactor]

Hi Natasha,

I used to do EFT regularly (every day of the week) and it was very helpful. I would follow Gary Craig's technique about a subject that caused me negative emotion, and started tapping. I did this process for a few months. But the disadvantge of it was I had to do it in private. I didn't feel comfortable tapping at work or out in public. When I did, I would get kind of self concious. You know, here I am tapping all over my body, and people might think of me as strange. Like it looks as if I'm scratching myself constantly, since I'm tapping all over myself, or why am I always touching my nipple?

http://nastynets.com/secretstash/eft-tapping-points-diagram.jpg
I'm really tapping. I'm not just feeling up nipple for the pleasure of it. Really!

So it just didn't feel right to do EFT as much. But I do know that Gary Craig has another set of tapping points that don't involve the nipple, around the karate chop point, but then it also feels like I'm trying to be Karate Kid wherever I go. And that tapping point doesn't reduce all the resistance as doing his whole set of tapping points, which feels weird to do in public.

http://www.tap4health.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/1-karate-chop.jpg
Don't mess with this bad ass.

So I just now stick with the Abraham processes. I can do those in public, if I'm not at home. I can do them in my car in the parking lot or grocery store. Normally I just get a notebook and do one of the writing exercises, such as the "Find the better feeling thought," "pivoting" or "scripting." I primarily focus on those three, but often I'll incorporate appreciation, or the creative workshop as part of the practice period. But sometimes I fall asleep doing them in the car. All that work at letting go of resistance gets me kind of tired. ^^^^

But that's better than looking like I'm feeling up my nipple in the car, as I sit in the parking lot at the mall.

http://www.mercola.com/images/eftcourse2h.jpg
I'm doing eft. Really. And it involves touching my nipple. And guess what, it feels good!

Steve

[New Dawn Rising]

I use both EFT and pivoting, depending on the situation.

When I'm planning a picnic and it rains that day... I just pivot... that's easy. :grin:

When something happens that triggers old pain :cry: I do EFT. Otherwise I can reach for a better feeling thought again and again and again but the intensity of the old pain keeps pulling me down. Yes I know I could use stronger will power but why? Just tap and release the energy and wow - I naturally float up higher and better-feeling thoughts spontaneously arise - zero effort.

Like most "healing" techniques - the benefit of EFT depends on where you are on the Emotional Guidance Scale.

Pivoting does not release energy blockages. EFT does - that is the real value of it. I have been working with my brother lately - helping/teaching him to do EFT. I love him but I gotta say he is majorly screwed up - all kinds of baggage, depression, screwy thinking. When he does EFT it is just amazing - huge cognitive shifts. When the energy blockages are cleared, it is like his eyes open and he can see things in a new & healthier way. This happens in a matter of minutes. Also, very painful traumas from his past... the pain just dissolves in minutes with EFT. So that now he can remember a traumatic incident from a neutral-feeling place - no more pain. In my experience EFT can do miracles. But ya gotta know what you're doing.

:heart:

And WTF is this playing with nipples thing? :facelol: There is a tapping point about 4 inches under the nipple that most people don't bother with cause it looks like you are... er... playing with your nipples. So skip it!

[AttractionFactor]

NDR-

Sounds like there's some resistance about EFT and nipples.

(Ahem). Might I suggest some tapping?

.... Even though I have some resistance about nipple tapping, I deeply and completely accept myself.....

Now let's do all the points.

http://nastynets.com/secretstash/eft-tapping-points-diagram.jpg

Tap 1 - Even though ...
Tap 2 - I have this resistance ....
.... (continue with all the other points)

OK.

Mona Lisa would be proud!

http://www.riversidehealing.com/mona%20eft1.GIF

[AttractionFactor]

http://www.balancedlivingmag.com/images/2007/July%20-%20August%2007/EFT/What%20Is%20EFT%20head.jpg

NO these people aren't speaking in sign language, they're speaking in EFT!!!

[New Dawn Rising]

NDR-

Sounds like there's some resistance about EFT and nipples.

(Ahem). Might I suggest some tapping?

.... Even though I have some resistance about nipple tapping, I deeply and completely accept myself.....

OMG Steve! :facelol: You are hilarious sometimes. Thanks for the good laugh. ^^

[AttractionFactor]

Natasha,

EFT gives you an excuse to sing Mariah Carey's "Touch my body"

YouTube- Mariah Carey - Touch My Body ( With Lyrics )

Touch my tapping points.
'
http://www.learning-inside-out.com/images/4tappingpoints_web.jpg

You can't do that with pivoting!

[AttractionFactor]

OMG Steve! :facelol: You are hilarious sometimes. Thanks for the good laugh. ^^

http://www.themotherhood.com/im/uploads/m/305_1223345937.jpg


Whheeeehhh! It's Friday!!!!!

[Bodhi]

Omg, huge giggles here! :facelol:

Thanks you guys. Anyone else wanna share their perspective on tapping? lol

No, seriously. I mean it.

So, I understand that you're supposed to tap yourself on the tapping point and say something at the same time. Is there a prescribed list of things to say while you're doing it? lol I'm asking seriously... but I can't stop giggling.

See, to me, this is the thread that demonstrates the power of thought vibration... you can only make somebody rofl in cyberspace by tapping into the power that creates worlds.

[Bodhi]

Like most "healing" techniques - the benefit of EFT depends on where you are on the Emotional Guidance Scale.



New Dawn,

Thank you so much for this clear answer. I feel this is the most important thing to be aware of regarding different kinds of emotional release techniques. Very clear and simple. Thank you.


Pivoting does not release energy blockages.


However, this isn't my experience. In my experience, pivoting creates flow where there was lack of flow before. (One example is my mother. I taught her how to pivot, and she's more healthy and relaxed and sociable and optimistic and sure of herself than ever before.)

[Bodhi]

Omg New Dawn, now that I'm thinking of it, I can't believe you said that pivoting does not release energy blockages! lol

You need some pivoting lessons? Just tell me. Awh, I'm such a clever duck now. lol

Love you!

[Timo]

... seriously, I would like to get some teaching. I would at least want to see, that it is possible to consciously pivot or shift. So, can you somehow show it to me?

[River]

I can't do either or when it comes to tapping and pivoting. Yet it (EFT) helps me to release resistance, acknowledge where I stand and own it, then feel better pretty quickly. I find it useful when I am emotionally triggered in a negative state. Or when I am having a habit or obsession I want to soften about. It is also good for connecting a body place with emotion and clearing it out, simply and quickly.

It is something I did intensely dealing with "trees in my forest" that are history of emotional traumas. I discovered how the so called negative situations in my history were really nothing, and now are nothing to me, really laughable. They used to be scary!

Now I use it automatically for a short period when I need relief. Nice tool-EFT. And you combine with pivoting. It helps you do that.

Pivoting by itself is really good, excellent when you are thinking critical or less than happy thoughts. Focus on what you want-easy!

Try it if you are drawn to it and it is super duper easy peasy to learn. And if you are not, don't. You have many magical tricks up your sleeve.

:heart:shannon

[JoyPath]

I prefer pivoting because I feel it as a more conscious shift. Plus, the EFT was very irritating to me. Some of the points really bothered me and there were too many things to remember.

I think it's a very cool tool for some people and you should try it out if you have any interest.

I do LOVE, LOVE, LOVE gently tapping the crown of my head with all five fingers at once because it feels like liquid joy pouring over and thru my body and can be a quick shift for me. This wasn't included in the EFT training I received, though. Try it - it feels so good :heart:

[asjairok]

I'm in love with Rebecca Marina,
so here:
http://www.audioacrobat.com/play/WDfNHL8X :kiss2:

[New Dawn Rising]

Omg New Dawn, now that I'm thinking of it, I can't believe you said that pivoting does not release energy blockages! lol

You need some pivoting lessons?
No I don't need no pivoting lessons. :p ^^

Here's what I mean:
Pivoting is like shifting tracks (picture a train-track). Which is like an energy flow through your body/field/mind. You are on one track that doesn't feel good and when you pivot you just shift (or jump) to a better-feeling track. But the first track is still there - it didn't go anywhere - you just aren't on it anymore.

EFT is like dissolving the track (or blockage). So it no longer even exists.

I can physically feel it sometimes when I do EFT. It feels like a WHOOSH through my body when a blockage gets released/dissolved. Really trippy stuff. That doesn't happen with pivoting.

Hope that made sense. :heart:

[Bodhi]

New Dawn, I appreciate your input.

Could you say that pivoting is the basis of EFT, like attraction is the basis of everything that happens in this attraction based Universe?

The reason why I ask this is because I sense a basic use of the power of the mind in EFT, which is what pivoting means to me - a basic use of the power of the mind.

I promise that's my last question. lol (fingers crossed behind) ;)

[asjairok]

I think in this short audio I send you
from Rebecca Marina
it is obvious how processes connect with pivoting quite naturally.

[Bodhi]

Ana, this is where I was really getting to. :heart: Pivoting is not different than EFT, it must be at the basis of it.