Abortion

[Kameroon]

Hi!

I wanted to ask if Abraham says something about this topic. I have been seeking for it but I haven't found. Can someone post it if there is anything?


Well .... what happened is that.. my friend who was very young at the time had find out she was pregnant and she ran into me in the hallway.
She told me that and as I knew her circumstances were really difficult to raise a baby in I asked her what will she do? And she said she will keep it, and I said do you really want this, do you feel it inside that is the right thing? And she said Yes, and than I said alright. Than that is it, no abortion than, but I said it in a way like abortion is a solution. And now I am feeling guilty.

After 2 months she called me and she said she would have probably lost her mind if she kept the baby. And so she did abort.

Now I feel guilty for some reason. Like if i suggested to kill the baby.
But I see it like this, if he was never born, than he never really was here. And I would see him probably pick another family to be born into.

What are your thoughts on this.. I will talk tomorrow to her about this... I just want to know this wasn't something she decided because I said it.. oh my. If you were to ask me again I would totally support her because now she would have a joy and a motivation to live and do better which.... kinda seems she doesn't because right after that she did some outrageous things which lead her to really heartbreaking experiences. Well, for me heartbreaking because she is my friend and I want the best for her. And I am still sure she will do good because she is awesome, I just feel there is something about her.


But however.... can you give me your opinions on this?

Thank you

[cigi]

In Many Lives, Many Masters, Dr. Weiss talks about how unborn babies have "migrant" souls. They can come & go from their mother's bodies at will. He also says they can communicate with their mothers through dreams.

These children - all children make a decision whether or not to be born & often times it is a joint decision between mother & child. Sometimes the baby decides not to take this particular physical form because there is something wrong with it. Sometimes he or she just chooses to wait & come into the physical under different circumstances or at a later time.

The most important thing to consider here is that there is NO death.

All is well, Murbabe.

:love::love:

[JoyPath]

Here's an Abe quote:
2/21/04-B.

"Well here's the thing. You are either free to be the creator of your experience or you are not. And, you come together in co-creation and the thing that so many people feel about the subject of abortion is that it is a wrongdoing to another and we say: you have to understand that any energy that is coming forth into this fetus is fully aware from that broader... perspective of what's happening here.
In other words, if you think someone like Abraham can foretell the future experience you've got to understand that any energy coming forth into some womb of some woman knows exactly where it's going and would not come forth if they were not fully aware of what the probable outcome would be. In other words, there is no miscreating in any of that."

Like Cigi said: All is well!

[Rodney]

The most recent recording I heard, that was talking about abortion, said that until the baby is out of the mother's womb, and experiences its first breath, than it is not what we know as "conscious".

While it is inside the womb, the baby is still seeing through the perspective of source energy. It isn't experiencing any contrast. And so, in the sense that we know life, it is "dead", it is non-physical, it is not physically focused.

And what happens, is the baby comes into the world, and takes its first breath... And then, it experiences the first bit of contrast, and it shoots out a rocket of desire. And this causes the expansion of the baby's Source Self. And for the first time, the gap between the baby's Physical Being and Source Being is created. And from this point forward, until the person croaks, they will experience this separation from non-physical because the gap between Physical You and Source You exists.

And so, it isn't until the first moment of contrast that a being becomes separated from source energy. And up until that point, the being is still non-physically focused.

[cigi]

I love that 11:11.:heart:

Contrast is actually what binds us to the physical. Cool.

[River]

My sense is that source comes into a physical body as a fetus then developing or not, sometimes for a lifetime to old age, sometimes for a few weeks or sometime in between. It is a thrilling experience for source to be in physical for however long it is. Source gets recycled into a new body or stays in pure positive energy, but it is all good and God. There is never anything wrong, no miscreation because you cannot get it wrong....source's perspective.

:heart:shannon

[River]

Aaaah... beautiful, Shannon. And if we all choose our lives, then I guess some souls choose a short peek-a-boo to see if they really wanna do this... again.

Who knows what truth is, Leah, but it feels right to me, so I will stick with that, relief seeking being that I am. :heart:shannon

[vineyardnancy]

:heart:Lovely description Shannon...
and I love the "peek-a-boo" response Leah.
Nice way to think of it!:clap:

[Kameroon]

Thanks for replyes, I see your point of view but still...
I can't help to ask myself how would you feel if your mom decided to end you before you could go outside of her body and become who you are today. Cause there is no way you would look like you do and experience all of what you experienced being born somewhere else. Thinking of all the fun people you met and all the loves you had. Just like Abraham said, the ride is worth it.... even if we stumble a lot.

But well... everyone makes choices. Sometimes the choices aren't in sinc with love.
But it's ok.

Much love to you all. ************:heart:

[Kameroon]

hahah Leah, I love you hahahaha
daamn ahahhaha