Isn't that great that with " economic crisis " big contrast

[asjairok]

ISN'T that great that with " economic crisis " big contrast is given and we can earnestly expect to be a lot better that it was ever, because people will ask for more...contrast has been given :biggrin:

[ghanima]

Well that's a brave statement, given that you're beginning to read of entire families taking suicide.
In another thread Alex was pointing out that contrast doesn't need to be painful, resistance is.
I wish for free energy NOW!

edit:
I also wish for the Federal Reserve to be hit by a meteorite, together with all the other central banks!
and the multinationals too! gone in a cloud

[asjairok]

Well that's a brave statement, given that you're beginning to read of entire families taking suicide.
well I have never ever read about that, not my pie.

[ghanima]

sorry, I didn't want to come out that moralistic, it's just it felt a bit forced
then you're totally free not to want it in your pie

me, maybe because I'm totaly titito on money, I'm not scared to be sorry for the pain of the people, and angry at those in power that have consciously caused this mess. I don't think that being sorry or angry weakens me in any way (in fact it doesn't! +2500 euros only today). I feel it's in fact empowering in some way.

[ghanima]

Leah, I read only the beginning of the article, because it's long and I have to go to bed. It talks of what to do in case of recession, but it is gonna be a depression which is an all different animal. During depression there is no credit and people stock food. Now we'll have a quiet year and in 2010, if nothing happens before to change events, bang!

And no, it's nothing healthy. This is a crisis that would have been healthy if it had been left unfold after the dot-com bubble bursted, in 2000. Instead (for reasons that seem only criminal) the Federal Reserve, under the leadership of Alan Greenspan, by keeping the interest rate abnormally low, and therefore money very low cost, pushed the debit to the point of collapsing the system. So there is nothing physiological in what is happening.

Of course ultimately all is well, but as we were saying in another thread, things can be a bit bumpy on the way there.

The only only thing that can save our ass is free energy, and it's ready, you look in youtube it's full of people who have figured it out. So that's something where I would focus a lot of intent, for a change much smoother and happier. Not casually Obama has put energy at the top of his agenda. Free energy woldn't solve in itself other problems of the system, but many things would heal as a consequence of the enormous feeling of opening and hope it would give to the world.

[asjairok]

ghanima I don't understand you.
But I can only speak for myself.

I really agree this is the best turning point ever
one that happened to me
I am really doing better than ever in my financial independence
and I can see some companies profit from loosing their competition-that's for once
also I see companies that offer jobs, since I had to search for ones-so from my point of view everything is just reorganizing on the global level
(I am coming from a country that had multiple crisis and we know that after rain it's always Sun
we've been here before
many times and we survived)
People are pushed to make changes and push is very good thing indeed, because
that's energy supporting you to do some action
When I said what I said at the very beginning of this thread-I thought = Abraham said that people that experience big contrast, are in far better place to heal, to make this wishes come through, because of the contrast making them wish and define their wishes, than people that every thing's "on some way ok"
for them.

[ghanima]

I probably didn't express myself too well


ok, forget for a moment about economy, let's get philosophical
there are 2 main points I want to consider with you

first
I think, contrast is not equal to resistance
you don't need to pass by pain to get to know some change is due
if you're in touch with yourself contrast will be born as a tickle, and a tickle it will continue to be and nothing more, as you'll be able to take the directions suggested by your intuition, IB, source or however you want to call it, and have no resistance

we don't need no drama

so taking it back to the economy, the depression that is gonna come unless other things happen, is a big big drama, and you say how good it is! because you delude yourself that it is not gonna be that big a drama, and because anyway the drama is gonna take changes.
So I answer, look the drama that's preparing won't feel too good, why don't we focus on a way to get the change avoiding the pain? with free energy for example
why focus on, how good we're entering a depression that will oblige us to change
and not on, how good soon energy will be as free as air and we'll have an entire new beginning


which takes me to the second point
I disagree with Abrahams that one needs to deny reality in order to keep positive
I've tried to do that, it didn't work, it didn't feel right and it's not even necessary

what I want is keep eyes open, vibes high and intuition alert
and go searching for water like the old rabdomants
searching for signs contained in 'what is' that my soul resonates with, and follow them
of course you'll not want to get locked in some rational thinking that reality is this and that, but that doesn't mean you'll need to get to the other extreme of delusional thinking
the solutions are right there, present in the present
source uses reality as an interface

so in economical terms, you don't need a positivity grounded on the delusional thought that it's gonna be all right, been there done that! which is totally in your head, if you watched the numbers you would know that it isn't so and that what we're facing is something unprecedented
you can instead watch the numbers and look for something to believe in, some sign to resonate with, some point where your hope can grow healthy and solid - that is what free energy is for me

that is
no fear
you can keep eyes open and heart happy at the same time

(and btw, you don't see things going that bad now because the real crisis is yet to unfold, although in some countries it's already partly kicked in, like Island for example. This is likely to be a relatively quiet year, and if you want to get credit in a bank this is time for action in fact -as hyperinflation establishes, your loan will not be big thing in a couple of years. Anyway, the real crash is previewed for 2010, unless something big enough changes events. What's happening now is events and numbers that are unmistakable but not yet clearly perceivable in the street)

[ghanima]

Alex, I'll be happy to give more details if you're interested. Let me think in which form is best to write them down.

Anyway, I'm a professional trader, that is, trading is my mooch, as you call it. I trade my own capital, don't work for institutions.
I am originally a visual artist, but 5 years ago when I got pregnant I said: I need money.
It happened that one winter that i passed in Peru doing my shamanic things, I found myself a lot richer than before out of thin air, that is, because the norwegian kroner had gained value over everything else. I said, hey that is not bad at all! and the year after I became much more poor instead, because of the same reasons inverted, and I said, hmm I better look inside this thing.
That's how I began to study very intensively the specific market of forex (foreign exchange), in time I found a style of trading that fitted me and proved to be consistently profitable, and then I went live and began to make A LOT of money, as I've got good brains and I'm veeery good at what I do. To be a good trader you need clarity of thought. I think you would do well too.

A very interesting consequence of being a trader has been that I became clear on so many things that involve our daily lives and yet are never investigated by people unless they are involved in some kind of financial job. The nature of money, for example. How banks squeeze people while not taking any risk themselves. How to be smarter than your bank then, and use the law in your favor. When it comes to money, information is an enormous source of power. All too often people suffer financial worries that they don't need to suffer.
And as a trader you're really in touch with things in all a different way than others. Contrarily to journalists and economists, we lose money if we are wrong and gain money if we are right. That changes the whole perspective. You don't buy fluff, ever.

So this was just to explain the credentials, which isn't much as i don't have a degree in economics and I'm not working for a fund, but if you consider, for the very same reasons my clarity is much less flawed as I'm not part of the system.
Anyway, of course I don't care to come out as right or wrong!
Today, not a good day of trading ;) passed too long time writing posts :roll:

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[asjairok]

Chamber
rofl !