Good God this world is a mess

[Jen2174]

I know you abers are always positive and would say that your not supposed to care about these things but its hard sometimes dammit.

My friend just explained to me the past half hour the long story of how Ford and GM might be going out of business because the dumb ass government wont loan them money. thats millions of a loss in jobs. Henry Ford invented the car but noone gives a crap. See im mad. its hard to be this perfect spiritual person. its moments like this I feel like strangling source for acting as if everything is perfect all the time. America is going to shit more and more every day. people dont think for themselves, they watch the news, the news tells them were in a recession so then all of a sudden people stop buying things. I swear to god i want to go live in some private place far away from this madness. if things continue that are bad, america will go to hell in a handbag and then yes, all we will have is our own lives, which is what I tell everyone I know anyway, that all that matters is our own private lives and private world, until the world around you falls apart and then it might can affect you.

I dont want some loving message telling me I need to get over it. this is how I feel. source may be perfect but down here things are messed up bad.

Im also mad because I made the mistake of looking up the secret and found some horrible blog of a guy is telling everyone what crap and lies the secret and the law of attraction is and everyone is believing it. so LOA works because the anger continues and it gives me more things to be angry about. LOL

I didnt actually watch the news, my friend told me of her own free will because she is a major pessimist and thinks bad all the time .im pretty much used to it but its just hard to ignore. Sticking your head in the sand feels so much better sure. Ignorance is bliss. perhaps I have to learn to stay there and watch the world crumble at my feet even though it hurts.

I have pretty much been upset by news since last week when that man was trampled on in wal mart and killed. Its hard to escape horrible realities of life.

But now that ive vented ill end on something positive. ill try like hell to be positive. im putting out some major rockets of desire..I DONT Want Ford to close! do you hear me universe? I am God, I create everything, I want it to be the thriving business it once was and never die.

[cigi]

Awww, Jen. It's like you started this thread just for me. :heart:


I dont want some loving message telling me I need to get over it. this is how I feel.

Good. Cause I'd prefer not to give you one.


My friend just explained to me the past half hour the long story of how Ford and GM might be going out of business because the dumb ass government wont loan them money.

That's debatable. The $70BILLION + bailout package has yet to be finalized. That money is yours & mine by the way, not the government's. We'll be paying for it for YEARS - no - GENERATIONS.

I don't think we should bail the failing giants out. Free enterprise means free to succeed - or FAIL. I'm a CEO of a small corporation & of this I am 100% sure: NO ONE will bail me out if I can't figure out how to make my business work. Why should I, or YOU or our GRANDCHILDREN be forced to pay for anyone else's entrepreneurial fuck-up?


I have pretty much been upset by news since last week when that man was trampled on in wal mart and killed. Its hard to escape horrible realities of life.


The thing to remember here is - it is not YOUR reality. The WalMart incident was disgusting. It speaks to the desperation of so many in our society that someone would get killed over SALE items. It is an indicator of how misguided so many people are.

But Jen, it is not YOU. If you don't need to satisfy a fundamental lack in yourself by trampling over some helpless person to get a tv at a special price, then you cannot bear the pain of it. You cannot take on circumstances that are far outside of your control & feel remorse for them.

The reason you feel like shit right now is because you are worrying about stuff you can't have any effect on. Your IB is telling you that you must consider what you will do for YOU. Worrying about what others do for THEM is where the ICK factor comes in.

Ford - can't fix it - say FUCK it.
WalMart - ugh, go Target.
Federal Bailout - Cigi=pay your fucking taxes & stop being on a 1st name basis with your damn auditor.

[Dorothee]

its moments like this I feel like strangling source for acting as if everything is perfect all the time. America is going to shit more and more every day. people dont think for themselves, they watch the news, the news tells them were in a recession so then all of a sudden people stop buying things.

Can you see how perfect this fits?

The world is exactly living its vibrational frequency, which is one of lack and fear, especially in the so-called old nations, but this has nothing to do with Source, because from their vantage point there is nothing of that kind, so wouldn't it be easier to acknowlege that it is just us humans with our fear based mentality and our hunger for sensations and catastrophies who have messed up this whole thing???

I think there is just no standstill and there will always be an up and down and this time the down is much more frightening (or at least feels so), because now we have lots and lots of so called economists doing nothing else than publicly playing the "What if"-game in the worst imaginable way.

As soon as you turn your attention to it, it just sucks you in, this is a mighty, tacky, viscious stream. So it is not hard to see why at the moment (and I dare to predict that this will go on for quite some time, until all people get tired of this) the majority of people is just unable to withdraw from this viscious stream of bad and worse news, because as soon as you're frightened, you want to hear more, always looking for some hope, but at the moment there are hardly any optimistic viewpoints left.

For me (and I work in the financial world, so to speak in the epicenter of all this mess), the only way to get over this is

a) to trust my eyes: if I look around me, the majority of people still live a very good life. Most are well fed, well clothed, they drive pretty nice cars and have TVs, stereos, MP3 players, and even the thought that they might keep their car for another year doesn't really feel like the end of the world as we knew it. Even if the economy might shrink by 4%, this doesn't immediately lead to starving people in the streets, you know. Let's keep it in a sane perspective, we're living the most comfortable life humans have ever lived on this planet (I'd recommend to read a bit about life in the middle ages or normal peoples life only 100 or 200 years ago, this has a very sobering effect, since THEN life was REALLY hard and look what has come out of it!)

b) to think about the good sides of this whole mess, that people might come down a bit from their frantic search for always more, more, more and rediscover the pleasures that don't cost much or are free altogether, like a walk in the woods or a beautiful sunset.

Perhaps it is a blessing that I can recall the last recession approx. 10 years ago, people were frantic about it and I was freaked out, too, since all I knew from recessions were reports from the Big Recession in the 30's. So I imagined people starving and soup kitchens at every corner and shoe soles made of paper in ice and snow, because that was what I had read about :o . But nothing like that happened! People didn't go out as much as before and spent more time at home, rediscovering the pleasures of a more simple life. Wow, big deal! :?

I grew up in a household in which we still used the cookbooks in which you could find dozens of tips how to substitute the simplest things, because it had been written in the really bad times, after World War II, when eggs were hard to come by and butter was a luxury. So this was my impression of what reccessions would be like and since then I (luckily) learned that these days, we're complaining on an incredibly high level!

So, no, the world is not yet going to hell in a handbasket, there's still so much normality around you if you just open your eyes and resist the tacky, relentless flow of mass (horror) media, it is on the verge to a new era, in which perhaps giant companies like Form, GM or Chrysler are just like dinosaurs. I don't know how the dying of the dinosaurs can be accomplished without any suffering, but I think it might have to happen anyway. And it might be a real blessing to all small innovative, creative companies.

I hope that the future belongs to smaller, more flexible units, to the internet without any borders, to new technologies and new ideas. And I think these would never have a real chance as long as the old top dogs control everything, so I think the crushing is inevitable in the long run and this will be a good thing in the great scheme of things.

There's a wonderful song from Barbara Streisand, if I recall it right: "From a distance..." That's just what is asked for at the moment, keep your distance and trust that everything will work out just fine for you. If you go to near to the flame, you'll hurt yourself, and you can't blame anybody about it than yourself.

:heart: Dorothee

[Dorothee]

Would be my pleasure! :joylick: :joylick: :joylick:

:heart: Dorothee

[yeslist]

nothing matters, except hat I feel good. brings meaning to my life. :wink2:

[Jen2174]

hmm well to me Ford and GM are american companies and they are ICONS and to me keeping something like that feels good. everyone else can feel however they want to about it.

as far as feeling good goes, I had an excellent day yesterday regardless of all the bad in the world and things seem to be looking up for me as my IB helps me to close the gap. I saw driftwood yesterday after I asked for evidence so im glad that the universe listens

[Jen2174]

i have to stop making passionate threads on here. everytime I feel like crap afterwards and that im always wrong and i have some flaw somewhere. theres lots of people that get to embrace their anger and get to feel what they want to feel and they are happy. why cant I be angry if i want to without everyone telling me to get over it?

[yeslist]

i have to stop making passionate threads on here. everytime I feel like crap afterwards and that im always wrong and i have some flaw somewhere. theres lots of people that get to embrace their anger and get to feel what they want to feel and they are happy. why cant I be angry if i want to without everyone telling me to get over it?
Hi Jen
Who said getting angry doesn't feel good sometimes....I didn't
Nothing matters ,except that you find relief....Does that sit better with you my friend.
When I seek happines I feel all soughts of stuff. the whole range of emotive indicators. the trick to deliberate satisfying creative activity is to always find relief from the emotion as we apply focus and engage desire.
I love it that you get angry about what is important to you. look for a better feeling thought and dance on my friend....the choice always comes down to us......magnificent creators
Love Simon

[New Dawn Rising]

hmm well to me Ford and GM are american companies and they are ICONS and to me keeping something like that feels good.
What is MORE American is CAPITALISM and FREE ENTERPRISE. Which means that weak companies go out of business and strong companies survive. Like Cigi, I'm a business owner and no one will bail out my company. I gotta be smart and make good business decisions. Ford and GM have been making awful business decisions for years. They SHOULD go out of business - that would be the most American thing.

i have to stop making passionate threads on here. everytime I feel like crap afterwards and that im always wrong and i have some flaw somewhere. theres lots of people that get to embrace their anger and get to feel what they want to feel and they are happy. why cant I be angry if i want to without everyone telling me to get over it?
You've got guts Jen - making passionate threads and opening yourself up to argument and criticism. Keep it up. :applause: And you CAN get angry and relish in your anger if you want. You just can't control how other people respond to your anger. If we tell you to get over it... then ignore us!

[cigi]

i have to stop making passionate threads on here. everytime I feel like crap afterwards and that im always wrong and i have some flaw somewhere. theres lots of people that get to embrace their anger and get to feel what they want to feel and they are happy. why cant I be angry if i want to without everyone telling me to get over it?

No you don't. Speak your truth, Jen. I for one am SO not telling you to stop being angry. BE PISSED! Have fun with it, figure out how it works for you. If you feel like crap for being angry, you'll never discover how useful it can be for you. If you refuse to honor the TRUE feelings you are having, then that will make you fake.

Besides, angry Jen is WAY more interesting than fake Jen.

PS. Awesome post, New Dawn.

[Dance of Joy]

I only read the headline of this one.

I honour those who see this world as a mess and want to fix it.
I love that what I see is the immense beauty of this place, just as it is.
I love every single thing here.

:heart: :heart: :heart:

And I love you, Jen. Methinks you are an uplifter to the core and are wanting to see everyone joyful and in well being. :biggrin:

Love,
Christine

[Dorothee]

Last night when we were working on the business pages -- guaranteed to give the most hardened Aber a long face these days -- I asked a co-worker whether he personally was feeling the pinch. Hell no. Our Reserve Bank has dropped mortgage interest rates three or four times already since the 'recession' began -- and is expected to do so again in February -- to stimulate spending; and oil prices are HALF what they were two months ago, which means prices of all kinds of things are dropping.

Leah,

thank you for this quote! Isn't it funny that we don't see newpaper featuring "OIL PRICE IS FALLING AND FALLING, THINGS ARE GETTING CHEAPER EVERY DAY, PEOPLE CELEBRATING IN THE STREETS" :scratch: ???

I can remember the headlines when the oil price was going up and the dead serious articles about how scarce oil is and that it will NEVER go down again noticeably...

Not long ago I was visiting a good friend in Canada (did I already mention that I just think it is MARVELOUS that we can have friends all over the world these days???) and we went to a Dollar store and I thought, by Gosh, you can literally buy nearly EVERYTHING for a buck (and this is Canadian Dollars which equates roughly 0.60 Euro Cents)! If now one of the thousands of inventors comes up with some nice little, cheap device for free energy (and in my eyes this is just around the corner, I'm totally convinced by that) and we can take energy costs out of the equation, life can be incredibly cheap, you can buy wonderful things for next to nothing via the internet, at ebay or whatever, there are tons of cheap stuff for about everything, and still people are complaining and complaining.

This is a highly perceptual world we live in, and I have decided to perceive the abundance that is right in front of me wherever I look :queen: !

:heart: Dorothee

[Dorothee]

GOOD GOD THIS WORLD IS THE BEST!

Just so, so true!!!! :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Dorothee]

But the message of the world is: if you have no money, no one will feed you or house you. If you lose your money, or you can no longer generate money, you will starve in the streets.

Leah,

I don't know where you live, but I think it might be in the US or in England, and so I really understand your reasoning. Because the American society has pushed this to an extreme and what started out as an undertaking of adventurous and couragious people on a quest for freedom has now been perverted into a new kind of slavery which I hope won't last much longer.

But I still hope for a gentler way to get to this new destination, for more empowerment for humans to see the chances there still are, especially now, with all this mass-communication, with the possiblity to reach out and to connect with millions and millions of people, no matter where or when.

I still hope that people will rethink their approach to money, their willingness to sell their soul for it, their readiness to let themselves be enslaved just out of fear of not finding a way to survive if they do otherwise.

I hope that we will have more time in the future, more self-consciousness in a good way, in a way that says no, thanks, I'm not a slave, I'm not proud of being employed in a fearful environment and being in duty 24/7, I have a life of my own, kids, family and I am worth getting a bit of respect and being treated as a contributor, and yes, we'll get along with each other without depleting our employees.

In this way I look forward to our future and I hope and pray that the collapse you predict won't be neccessary because every individual can at least find to this safe spot in his own heart, where he get's a glimpse of his own self worth and the freedom that comes from knowing that nothing bad can happen to us as long as we feel good and line up with what is in our Vibrational Escrows.

I heard about the concept of heaven an hell a few days ago as it is purported especially by the bible-people in the US, and I thought, yes, there is a hell, and it is in our minds every day, when we open our hearts to the two devils there are: Fear and doubt and the little sisters of the devils, bitterness and sarcasm. If we let them into our minds and our hearts, we have hell on earth, there's nothing else needed. And we can also have heaven on earth, which is when we remember that we're part of this bigger concept and that there is nothing that can harm us unless we invite it into our lifes and unless we add power to it. That's my conception of heaven and hell, and I prefer to strive for heaven, as good as I can.

Hugs,
:heart: Dorothee

[Patricia b]

DOROTHEE!!!!!

I am so excited to see you! I was JUST THINKING ABOUT YOU THE OTHER DAY---I enjoyed your company on our little tour of Grand Turk on the cruise. How's that watch working for you?

Loved reading your comments here....

Everywhere I go, I see evidence of thriving. I like to look at what I want to see.

[Dance of Joy]

Everywhere I go, I see evidence of thriving. I like to look at what I want to see.

:biggrin: :dance:

[New Dawn Rising]

Leah and Dorothee - I understand your attitude towards money - it is a common one. And I used to think that way - sort of. But I've changed my mind. Yes it is true about greed and fear and insurance companies and corruption. But it's not money's fault!

Here is a quote that I loved by Jeshua channeled by Pamela Kribbe:

Money is innocent. Money is a flow of energy that actually represents pure potentiality. Money offers opportunities.

The reason I loved this quote is because that is what money feels like to me. Money represents freedom to me. I LOVE MONEY. I really do. :heart: :heart: :heart:

[Dorothee]

It's bound to be an illusion that hell felt like it went on for ever and heaven was so brief. You know, the time flies when you're having fun sort of thing; and 10 seconds with your hand on the stove is... quite a long time.

Hi Leah, this is a very interesting obeservation and I thought about this earlier, too.

I think, since we are eternal beings and our normal state is one of absolute bliss, this life was not intended to be looooooong (for an eternal being time flying by must be the best thing there is!), but it was intended to be like the blink of an eye. So if you live life as it was intended (having specs of contrast in it, looking at them for expansion and then again aligning with your Higher Self as quickly as possible), life is just like that, a blink of an eye and its over!

But if we deviate from what was intended and we get stuck and dance with all these devils (fear, anger, bitterness, pessimism, sacrasm), it takes longer and longer, and in this time we also age considerably.

For me this is also a reason why people who mostly do what they love to do and who care a lot about how they feel and try to feel as good as they can, in most times look much, much younger than their real age and those who lead a bitter and unhappy life mostly age prematurely.

The flow of life is intended to sweep us through our human existence and it is our resistance that makes a looooong and hard experience of it!

This way the Universe is just like every parent, rewarding you for behaving "good" and "punishing" you for behaving "bad". If you live life as it was meant, it is a delicious thing, if you don't, it truly isn't.

We have free will, we can choose whatever we want, since there's nothing that could be broken, really, but we will feel the consequences, if we decide to forget our true nature and go with the so called "dark forces" (which are totally man-made and reside in our critical brain).

That's at least how it looks to me and it makes sense in my eyes.

Love,
:heart: Dorothee

[Dorothee]

Axl wrote something to the effect that if this was the case, most of us were thinking ugly thoughts judging by our avatar pics

Wow, really nice person that would be, for sure! Luckily enough, I never read anything of him, but I must say, I think most of the Avatar pics here show nice and happy faces, so he must have had a pretty queer way of looking!

On the other hand, I love to do the exercise Bashar recommends in order to telepathically connect with another, which means to just copy their posture or their face expression in order to instantaneously feel the predominant thoughts this person thinks. So (at least in this part of the world, where even female faces still show a few signs of aging, I think in Australia there should be a few of them be left, too :) ) if you do that and you look at the faces of some people around you and try to imitate their expression, you can feel all the resistance they're going through. So helpful sometimes!

:heart: Dorothee

[Dorothee]

Sorry Jen, for now finally hijcacking your thread! :oops:

Thanks Leah, for the story about the posture, it is so important to recognize again and again that our feelings are so much influrenced by our posture and our attitude and that sometimes feeling better is just a stretch away!

By the way, PATRICIA, sorry for not reacting to your nice words earlier, I so love to think back to Grand Turk when I sit here in the middle of this grey December fog! I'm not sure if the watch really helps, but I love the wear it and so far I haven't exchanged it for any other of my watches, which is quite unsual, because I have a nice little collection of beautiful watches. But it just feels good to wear this one, so I continue to do so. I even thought about ebaying off a few of the other ones (perhaps in order to buy the new chocolate one from Philip Stein, it is just to die for *drool*!!!! I know, the game at the moment is to get it before dying, just kiddin'!!!).

:heart: Dorothee

[New Dawn Rising]

My friend just explained to me the past half hour the long story of how Ford and GM might be going out of business because the dumb ass government wont loan them money.
I thought of this thread as soon as I saw this "advertisement". I just had to post it. :joylick: Click on the ad to read the fine print - pretty funny.

[Chamber]

Exactly....it's the auto makers that are the dumbasses.

The excuse is a ton of people will lose their jobs. That's a cop-out.

It's one thing to bail out the airline industry...but the auto industry can die...and good riddance.

An industry that expects people to go out and buy a new vehicle every 3 years is doomed to fail eventually.

Now we will start seeing better quality longer lasting vehicles...and most importantly...alternative fuel vehicles.

It's a good thing.