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yeslist
Thu Nov 20 2008, 2:12pm
I think all new age prophecy is Crap! Fantasy!
(qualify what I mean about the term prophecy) any forecast that is not based in all is well now!
New age abandonment!That is why I love Abe’s teaching...they cut the crap and encourage us to use what we have become from our ’ now stand point’/perspective. Not some future date when a new heaven and earth will form. That kind of thinking never comes to anything of higher substance because those thinkers a focusing out of a ‘Lack of’ standpoint. feeling lack in the now, keeps us from our desired outcome.
Abe tells us...there is nothing wrong and nothing needs fixing!
All is well is Abe’s message....We are where we are an it is OK. Focusing on the contrast of this reflected collective of conscious awareness is what brings forth our desires, and housed in those desires are the emotive building blocks of our expanded state of being.
I say, all prophecy is fantasy in the minds of those who created it and those that vibe with its emotive reflection. A reflection of lack of ......!
There is a huge difference between Prophecy and intention when the significants of the "now" is realized by the thinker.
I think that intention holds the weight of the now in its sight while prophecy holds no substance, for future is what we decide it will be for us from this now standpoint. Prophecy is fruitless to this focus as a tool for expansion.
‘Expectation’ is about as far as this little bunny would venture into the future now.
Bodhi
Thu Nov 20 2008, 3:59pm
I like the distinction you have made btw prophecy and intention. All will always be well also sounds as a kind of prophecy though ... or a fact... depends on what your truth is.
If all is well NOW, then it will be well in all NOWS, in all possible futures. A prophecy which is not a prophecy. lol :heart:
yeslist
Thu Nov 20 2008, 4:25pm
Hi Natasha
I was thinking of retracting my thoughts above....simply because they were my own perspective's understanding of my perception of my reality. The message in those thoughts for me was....Base all from what life has currently caused me to become. (Appreciation of the higher emotive realisations is the key to my adventure.)It has also taught me to fine tune my recognition of 'Lack" in my perspective. Above were my thoughts for me to grow from. I think I have seen a glimpse of something bigger.
It was not my intention to get into the semantics of words and definitions.... :drum:
I hope this day finds you an abundance of happiness!
Love
Simon
Jen2174
Thu Nov 20 2008, 5:19pm
I wish you would have been more specific on what new age is crap because to me most of it is. I used to think it was the greatest thing in the world until I realized how anti-LOA it really is. stuff like Feng Shui is completely anti LOA and I still use tarot cards but in a whole new way now where as before I was letting the negative cards dictate what my life would be like and thats what a lot of new agers do. In some cases, they are no better than christians in some ways. some of them even believe suffering is a way of life and you have to do it and there are no exceptions.. damn why did I ever fall for that? :scratch:
yeslist
Thu Nov 20 2008, 8:20pm
so true in my reality, Adal my friend!
the potential of now is waiting in our imagination as the energy that thought coveys crosses that fertile ground.
:wave:
yeslist
Thu Nov 20 2008, 9:14pm
As long as the prophecies are in alignment with what I want they are cool by me.
If they are NOT in alignment with what I want, then I will choose to add something else to my pie.
:D
Thinking back on it I think I should have said that too....hehe!
thanks
jonquil
Thu Nov 20 2008, 9:29pm
I enjoy prophecy. Always had a fascination with it.
Not so much the "predicting the future" part, just some of the amazing mental gymnastics that go into it.
Not the channeling stuff, but the Egyptology/Mayan Calandar/Nostrodamus stuff really fascinates me!
I don't know why.
I'm easily impressed, I guess!
But I agree wholeheartedly with your intent.
What will be, will be.
The power is the power of now. Come what may, I am the observer of it.
Jonquil
yeslist
Fri Nov 21 2008, 12:10am
That person would be...ourselves!
I make a start in my perspective and take up the responsibility for my own happiness in this now!
that is all that matters.....now, that feels better.....bring on the contrast! hehe!
Cantabile
Fri Nov 21 2008, 5:53am
I'm only vibing with my "NOW". I only agree with my now. I live in the moment and it is perfect as it always is. :)
I agree with you wholeheartedly, Simon. :)
Bodhi
Fri Nov 21 2008, 8:57am
(Appreciation of the higher emotive realisations is the key to my adventure.)
Mmmmm, yes, yum.. I like Simonese :biggrin:
And sometimes I like to play with words too.
Languages have always been my passion, especially the language of "now" or the language of "heart". :heart:
I appreciate all you share with us!
Crane
Sat Nov 22 2008, 12:20pm
Sort of surprising, since this forum that "uses Abraham-Hicks books as the basis doe understanding," that no one mentioned that Abraham addressed this very subject in a lecture.
Paraphrasing a very easy to grasp concept, Abraham noted that no future event is possible because nothing has been manifested yet.
You're always emerging in colossal now moment that passes before you can claim it. The moment rests on a shared passed created by everyone and everything that went before. We create our reality, starting from that basis, never from scratch.
If you want New Age prophecies to manifest, you can pre-pave by thinking about them to your heart's content. Others with more loving, positive views will probably prevail.
But we all build together from the here and now, all in it together, all connected, all at once.
The more you understand about what constitutes the here and now, the moment you are emerging from, the better you can build and build creatively and redo only that which is worth repeating.
yeslist
Sat Nov 22 2008, 2:53pm
Sort of surprising, since this forum that "uses Abraham-Hicks books as the basis doe understanding," that no one mentioned that Abraham addressed this very subject in a lecture.
Paraphrasing a very easy to grasp concept, Abraham noted that no future event is possible because nothing has been manifested yet.
You're always emerging in colossal now moment that passes before you can claim it. The moment rests on a shared passed created by everyone and everything that went before. We create our reality, starting from that basis, never from scratch.
If you want New Age prophecies to manifest, you can pre-pave by thinking about them to your heart's content. Others with more loving, positive views will probably prevail.
But we all build together from the here and now, all in it together, all connected, all at once.
The more you understand about what constitutes the here and now, the moment you are emerging from, the better you can build and build creatively and redo only that which is worth repeating.
Not surprising dave...just leaving room for your interaction....thankyou for that it is such a valid point.
but let me qualify from my perspective a statement that you made above.....
"But we all build together from the here and now, all in it together, all connected, all at once."
I would add .......and, all from our own individual vibrational set point within the relationship to our non physical broader perspective, this perspective, is the degree of potential awarness of well being our individual beingness has expanded too. Co creation is based on this premise of individual relationships with self.( all wanting to feel better about what each is observing (perception))
Cheers
Simon
Ahnalira
Sat Nov 22 2008, 3:36pm
I chatted with Abraham about the Mayan prophecies on one of the cruises. I asked them their take on the concept that we are transitioning from the logical mind to the Intuitive Mind... and that - according to the Mayan Prophecies - the date for this emergence was February 2010.
Abraham agreed that the Intuitive Mind is another way of describing connection with Inner Being and that is the way the current flows. They said that dates, however, are a limiting construct of physical reality. The only real time is "now" and that everyone finds Intuitive Mind on a moment to moment (now to now) resonance :joylick:
Nightprincessa
Sat Nov 22 2008, 4:32pm
Abraham agreed that the Intuitive Mind is another way of describing connection with Inner Being and that is the way the current flows. They said that dates, however, are a limiting construct of physical reality. The only real time is "now" and that everyone finds Intuitive Mind on a moment to moment (now to now) resonance :joylick:
Yesssssssss :dance:
yeslist
Sat Nov 22 2008, 4:45pm
go to next post...I added some stuff......change is a constant!!! rofl
yeslist
Sat Nov 22 2008, 4:51pm
I agree from my own perception Ahnalira.....it is interesting to note though that ......we are all aspects of the expression of conscious awareness. and when a point is reached in our collective expanded now when there are more of us collectively interacting from this blended perspective, that moment will reflect a raise in collective conscious awareness that resonates at a place not yet experienced by so many...( this process is constantly in motion through the thinking of thoughts which is expanding and extending the idea of humanity)..
What I love a bout my understanding of the Mayan calendars(limited understanding) is that they are tracking this amazing co creational activity of conscious reconciliation with our non physical intentions(well being)
this new reflection of the idea of humanity has been laid out in an amazing events catalogue by means of this calendar system. we cannot predict the future but I can see the reality of past linear historical events relating to this amazing expansion that we are all a contributor towards.
I got my insight from Ian Lungold’s lectures on the subject...It is important to noter in regard to this topic that Ian's predictions for the future were the weakest part of his insightful lectures....We can't predict what is coming other than that Well being is the essence of all that is. we hold the keys to reconciliation with the very next thought we think.!!!
Cheers
Simon
Ahnalira
Sat Nov 22 2008, 8:00pm
It is important to noter in regard to this topic that Ian's predictions for the future were the weakest part of his insightful lectures
I agree. Wasn't it fascinating the clarity he transmitted while communicating in generalities and how that was lost when he tried to prove specifics?
we are all aspects of the expression of conscious awareness. and when a point is reached in our collective expanded now when there are more of us collectively interacting from this blended perspective, that moment will reflect a raise in collective conscious awareness that resonates at a place not yet experienced by so many...(
I agree with this, too. And I love being a trailblazer for this phenomenon :joylick:
yeslist
Sat Nov 22 2008, 11:37pm
Hi Alex
I tried to get some of the meat from the book new beginings because I have not read it....all I got were excerts from the book...Interesting that these bits that I read were reflecting Abe's view that it did not matter what was happening externally but what we are vibrating from our state of being that was where our attention should be fixed. focusing on our own vibes.
If you have specific examples of this so called woeful attempt at prophecy...I would be really interested to see them....Abraham only answers questions was what I always thought...Someone asked a question and they answered them...did'nt they???? enlighten me please.
Cheers my friend
yeslist
Sat Nov 22 2008, 11:55pm
I wonder if anyone else has links to this stuff so we can discuss it's meaning??????
I think that the bad things were "earth changers" in regard to the current collective vibrations at the time or something like that. It would be interesting to get more material on why Abraham went down that road. May be I will get a chance to ask them about it when they come to Sydney next month.
Cheers
Simon
yeslist
Sun Nov 23 2008, 12:04am
I found these from new beginnings 1
"The revolving sphere upon which you live is in the process of readjustment. It is seeking balance. Gradually, over a very long period of time, it has gotten out of balance. What that means to you, in a physical sense, is tat there will be a dramatic shifting as your planet realigns itself. From our broader perspective, we can tell you that this has occurred many times in the history of the existence of the earth. In fact, on more than one occasion, a much more dramatic shifting has occurred than what is to be experienced now. This is a partial shifting which will bring about much devastation in some areas on the surface of your earth while other areas will be relatively free of destruction."
Page 70
"Much information has already been gathered by those who have been studying the activity of your changing earth, and that information will be of value to you as you are choosing places of safety."
Page 74
"We preface this information with this statement of knowledge: The majority of your thoughts which bring forth fearful emotion have no valid basis."
Page 77
"And so, the planet is always righting itself, and every 26,000 years or so, give or take a thousand or so..."
Page 82
did not see anything too woeful in the above quotes????
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