Chakras...

[Zesty]

I happened to stumble upon a resource in a very 'grounded' book about chakras. This caught me off guard considering the book was about wealth and the economy. I stopped and looked at the chart from a more practical level, not from the perspective of a free-spirited indigo child who can enter astral in seconds flat :D I love those people, but it always felt too spiritual for me (and I am very spiritual). I like to get that other perspective... but too much of that really wears out my energy. I feel like I want to sleep when I think about that too much.
Regardless, looking at this chart with a pair of fresh eyes, I looked online briefly and found these images.

http://www.folknouveau.com/healing/chakra-meditation-spiral.gif

http://www.folknouveau.com/healing/chakras.gif

After looking at the top-most image... I totally had the realization that I am VERY much imbalanced to the crown end of the spectrum. In fact, almost 'perfectly imbalanced' in a linear manner...

The spiral one even more caught me off guard because I feel the MAJORITY of all my thoughts and feelings are more spiritual in nature. I UNDERSTAND very much about beingness... so much that it sort of conflicts with the next level down: The ability of SEEing things. Oftentimes what I UNDERSTAND that I should be SEEING is in conflict with the even further level down of what I SPEAK and communicate. Like my experiences are tied together. My ability to SPEAK what I really want to is restricted by a blockage of LOVE. Further on down the chain, and the things I have the absolute most resistance to is DOING, further FEELING, and mostly what I AM.

I can make I AM statements, but they all feel distance somehow. If you look at the 2nd image, you see that the root chakra is dealing with grounding and survival. I have always felt as though I never do well in arguments or conflicts. This is by far my most challenging part of me. Anything which 'disturbs' the emotion really causes my I FEEL and I DO thoughts and actions to really be disturbed like shaking up a glass of silt. I feel even simple interactions sometimes cause me to react more than the average person, yet my ability to UNDERSTAND spiritually the undertone of certain things (such as meditation or oneness) seems to go far beyond what most people can grasp.

I generally tend to say I AM statements (through my understanding of LOA), but quite literally my emotions dig up seeds that I plant, or my emotional noise of repeating things over and over and over endlessly in my mind get in the way and dig them all back up. Even with complete FAITH, and KNOWING (which I have. I really UNDERSTAND loa is real). This really leads to annoyance because I know what must be done, I understand I must feel good, but without a sense of grounding that NAILS my thoughts to a solid energy, everything kind of jumbles around.

I really really desire a sense of grounding.

I feel as though most people on this earth are the complete opposite of me, for whatever reason. They are more imbalanced to the I AM side of the spectrum. They strictly know what they ARE.. and that's it. They are more grounded and stable. They are in an argument, so what... it doesn't change really how they think or act, and their emotions aren't 'disturbed' in the first place.They have to speak in front of the class, so what. They may feel nervousness, but their sense of groundedness allows this to be overcome with relative ease. They are more black and white, and see things as things happening to them as a person. Most people I talk to don't even really understand concepts of oneness that well.

I feel as though my understanding of oneness and spiritual things is imbalanced an inability to FEEL and BE coherently. My emotional mental noise is even sometimes ridiculous after long bouts of meditation. I actually feel deep deep down to be in a fight just so I can feel that groundedness which seems quite absent. Further up the chain, I realize when I have my on days where I seem more grounded than usual (although not nearly as much as others it seems), I also have more sexual desire which isn't impeded by thoughts of the universe. I actually want to bend a girl over the counter and make her scream my name.. rub her little body down with massage oil and dominate her on the washing machine.. but on certain occasions, those *quite wonderful* desires are impeded by a lot of thoughts higher up on the spiral which seem to 'take over' any ability to actually go through with them.

I know there are 1000 resources for this, it feels better for me to ask here though because I can get direct answers which are far more interesting and relevant to read than a 400 page article explaining each chakra ;) Sometimes that info seems TOO much unless I'm aiming to be some spiritual healer or something, which I am not.

[Zesty]

I made this... this actually is amazing to see this. Just looking at this makes me feel good that I understand what 'has been going on.' It has been completely beyond me why I feel the way I do sometimes.

Wow that's actually really cool the way this works. After putting some time into this and examining each facet, i see that I really do lie more towards one end of this. awesome! Now I desire to be fully balanced and my true potential is glorious

Ill BOLD the ones I feel I truly am in alignment with. This is not beating the drum of negativity. I actually think this is fucking awesome how this worked out like this. The ones not in bold i am fully intending to have BOLD and flowing into my experience
I may be able to do the things not bolded, but I dont feel TRULY aligned with them. Things in italics are particularly un-aligned at this moment.
Root
(Survival and grounding, standing up for oneself, family, social belonging, safety, order, stability)
-I AM
Sacral (Creation and sexuality, desire, pleasure, power, control, money)
-I FEEL
Solar Plexus (Persona, self-esteem, gut-instinct, responsibility, decisions, honor, respect, calming emotions, fear, trust)
-I DO
Heart (Love, forgivingness, compassion, anger, healing)
-I LOVE
Throat (Expression, communication, creativity, faith, judgment)
-I SPEAK
Third Eye (Intuition, truth, intellect, perception, thought)
-I SEE
Crown (Universal being, spirituality, oneness, inspiration, universal consciousness, understanding)
-I UNDERSTAND

[AttractionFactor]

Dear Zest,

I'm not very big on chakras. For me the concept of chakras is too complex.

However I'm not saying the chakra system isn't usable, because for some
it explains their sense of spirituality, bur for me I like a system of spirituality
that is less detailed and better to understand. And that is why I study Abraham.

From what I get out of the chakra system, every chakra is based on feeling.
The chakra I relate with best is around the stomach area where you feel
a reaction (we could call that the solar plexus chakra) to the outside
world, and you feel a knot in your stomach if you feel a sense of fear.
This is also called the flight or fight response.

I also think this may relate to your desire for grounding.

Being grounded means (from what I get from your post) is that you would
be in control of your state of your reaction to your own personal reality.

For example, if someone were to be really nasty, let's say they
say some mean things to your face, then you can choose to react with
fear, or you could choose to react not at all. Meaning it doesn't bother
you, however it does bother you, so you react (and it may not necessarily
have to be a reaction of fear but you react) and you say something nasty back.

You may say being nasty was the right thing to do - and it might be
in certain situations - but what if that reaction is with a boss and you
loose your job, or with a police officer and you get sent to jail,
or in public and people laugh at you that you can't keep
your composure and you feel humiliated, or at a bar where you trying to
impress someone and it turned them off to see you act in way they did not like.

So in this instance you feel a lack of control, or a lack of grounding.

One of the bigget points about the Abraham teachings is about being
in control of your own personal reality where you do not allow
outside conditions to control your reaction to reality.

However it doesn't mean you tolerate people who call you nasty things, but it does mean
you control your "vibration" where you don't allow those people
into your experience, and you don't allow your emotions to overreact.

i don't think the chakra system is the best explanation
of what you are seeking for grounding. I think it's really about how you focus thought on how you react to your personal reality.

How you focus thought is how you create your own personal reality
that is best for you.

I hope that insight sheds some light on what you were thinking.
Thanks for allowing me to dive into this question with my own thoughts.


Steve

[Zesty]

I guess essentially I'm saying I sometimes feel as my thoughts are just slightly out of my control. Despite my many times on my 'off days' .. and even on my 'on days' to simply 'just feel good!'... complete control feels just out of my reach. Theres always some THING or thought or feeling from the level below it (towards the red) which keeps uprooting the seeds I plant from higher levels despite my best efforts of meditation, journals of desires, creation boards, exercises, staying in the moment...

[asjairok]

sorry I haven't read the whole post of yours, but, there are meditations by Doreen Virtue for cleaning the chakras and I actually downloaded it with eMule,can you do that? :) ;) :heart:

[asjairok]

I happened to stumble upon a resource in a very 'grounded' book about chakras. This caught me off guard considering the book was about wealth and the economy. I stopped and looked at the chart from a more practical level, not from the perspective of a free-spirited indigo child who can enter astral in seconds flat :D I love those people, but it always felt too spiritual for me (and I am very spiritual). I like to get that other perspective... but too much of that really wears out my energy. I feel like I want to sleep when I think about that too much.
Regardless, looking at this chart with a pair of fresh eyes, I looked online briefly and found these images.

http://www.folknouveau.com/healing/chakra-meditation-spiral.gif

http://www.folknouveau.com/healing/chakras.gif

After looking at the top-most image... I totally had the realization that I am VERY much imbalanced to the crown end of the spectrum. In fact, almost 'perfectly imbalanced' in a linear manner...

The spiral one even more caught me off guard because I feel the MAJORITY of all my thoughts and feelings are more spiritual in nature. I UNDERSTAND very much about beingness... so much that it sort of conflicts with the next level down: The ability of SEEing things. Oftentimes what I UNDERSTAND that I should be SEEING is in conflict with the even further level down of what I SPEAK and communicate. Like my experiences are tied together. My ability to SPEAK what I really want to is restricted by a blockage of LOVE. Further on down the chain, and the things I have the absolute most resistance to is DOING, further FEELING, and mostly what I AM.

I can make I AM statements, but they all feel distance somehow. If you look at the 2nd image, you see that the root chakra is dealing with grounding and survival. I have always felt as though I never do well in arguments or conflicts. This is by far my most challenging part of me. Anything which 'disturbs' the emotion really causes my I FEEL and I DO thoughts and actions to really be disturbed like shaking up a glass of silt. I feel even simple interactions sometimes cause me to react more than the average person, yet my ability to UNDERSTAND spiritually the undertone of certain things (such as meditation or oneness) seems to go far beyond what most people can grasp.

I generally tend to say I AM statements (through my understanding of LOA), but quite literally my emotions dig up seeds that I plant, or my emotional noise of repeating things over and over and over endlessly in my mind get in the way and dig them all back up. Even with complete FAITH, and KNOWING (which I have. I really UNDERSTAND loa is real). This really leads to annoyance because I know what must be done, I understand I must feel good, but without a sense of grounding that NAILS my thoughts to a solid energy, everything kind of jumbles around.

I really really desire a sense of grounding.

I feel as though most people on this earth are the complete opposite of me, for whatever reason. They are more imbalanced to the I AM side of the spectrum. They strictly know what they ARE.. and that's it. They are more grounded and stable. They are in an argument, so what... it doesn't change really how they think or act, and their emotions aren't 'disturbed' in the first place.They have to speak in front of the class, so what. They may feel nervousness, but their sense of groundedness allows this to be overcome with relative ease. They are more black and white, and see things as things happening to them as a person. Most people I talk to don't even really understand concepts of oneness that well.

I feel as though my understanding of oneness and spiritual things is imbalanced an inability to FEEL and BE coherently. My emotional mental noise is even sometimes ridiculous after long bouts of meditation. I actually feel deep deep down to be in a fight just so I can feel that groundedness which seems quite absent. Further up the chain, I realize when I have my on days where I seem more grounded than usual (although not nearly as much as others it seems), I also have more sexual desire which isn't impeded by thoughts of the universe. I actually want to bend a girl over the counter and make her scream my name.. rub her little body down with massage oil and dominate her on the washing machine.. but on certain occasions, those *quite wonderful* desires are impeded by a lot of thoughts higher up on the spiral which seem to 'take over' any ability to actually go through with them.

I know there are 1000 resources for this, it feels better for me to ask here though because I can get direct answers which are far more interesting and relevant to read than a 400 page article explaining each chakra ;) Sometimes that info seems TOO much unless I'm aiming to be some spiritual healer or something, which I am not.
I think that you are so :roll: going to come where you want to :woohoo:
This sex thing...wishes , I understand you, but I believe that you're going to overcome and with time to see how real sex can be fulfilling without this power games, that are part of your past karma - it's not the same for you any more.., and you're in the process of discovering that, and this fact that you're in the process is proof of you're getting on your wanted place.You're going to understand this :D :winking:

[Zesty]

hhah.. i actually lol'ed in real life. you caught me :shock:
I'm surprised you figured that out based on what I wrote. On one hand I suppose I am involved in many sexual acts which aren't karmically fulfilling. It definitely was a lot more.. you know, before. Recently I have been becoming much more responsible and emotionally fulfilling. Its a catch22 though because some of the more naughty things like threesomes are one of the most sexually invigorating experiences I have ever had, or coming wherever I want -- all in the form of domination but not necessarily a power game I don't think. I test the waters to see if the girl likes that, and most girls my age moan and love when I do things like that. If they don't, then I don't continue. Then again I can think of other times :oops:

I have had one night stands and those definitely are NOT right for me, neither is leading girls on. I'm about meeting people I really really connect well with (my purpose on earth is to inspire and connect with people.. that seems to be my only real interest). From there things lead to more sultry situations :mrgreen:

Thanks for pointing that out

[asjairok]

well I know what you're saying because I just went from that place out here .
I caught myself wandering why do I want this , since my new boyfriend really is not on that level.
I have not , thou, thoughts to share, because my knowledge came really more on deep understanding, something like feeling level. But I can try to explain it:

It's like I've been wanting this thing, but I realized that it is rather sick, than normal flow of energy. comes from idea of empowering you because you think that you need this power to face the world-some this underground power, but truth is world is not that scary place at all :heart:

[asjairok]

thought you don't really need this insurance, that is coming from the first chakra, this :I'm better and I care this energy inside me, and you (other/s) feel it , I feel good because of it. Yes, I'm the man.

[Zesty]

okay i had to read those replies a bunch of times to get it, you type worse than me when im drunk rofl just kidding, but I do see now how that energy does come from the first chakra. Often times I have the strong desire to feel that energy. When I DO feel it it's incredible, I feel balanced..

I guess that's what leads to my desire to ravish girlies and get the talking dirty, whisking them off their feet and whatnot. I suppose it feels 'sick' in a way, but in a good way..

I have always somehow felt this contradiction.. that being involved in those things isn't most karmically pure, but at the same time i would feel completely emasculated and far more SICK than originally if I didn't act like a dominant energy. Thats the yin and yang of male and female, since animals have been on this earth. They flow together, there is masculine and feminine polarity. I have felt like if I'm on the wrong path sometimes doing very devious things (nothing which would ever hurt somebody physically or emotionally, just really devious things like having sex on day one because the connection is so hot and strong, threesomes, massage oil or like i said sex in random places, 'finishing' all over her..)
While I may feel in a very deep sense .. like.. hm.. like im falling to the 'dark side' is the best i can put it.. ever so SUBTLY, at the same time if I picture going through sex with a completely emotional involvement as a female (im guessing that would be karmically pure sex, where there is no 'play' or 'game' of emotion),.. that would be far less fun, invigorating, exciting and satisfying.
I suppose I just have yet to learn.. I am 22.. maybe in a few years I will see more or feel more what is in 'pure' karmic alignment.

[Jen415]

I suppose I just have yet to learn.. I am 22.. maybe in a few years I will see more or feel more what is in 'pure' karmic alignment.

Perhaps, but in the meanwhile, why not enjoy your sexuality as it is right now? From what you've written, there's nothing really "dark" about your fantasies. I'm sure you will attract the right person/people with whom to share them. You will find plenty of "yang" to your "yin"...;)

IMO, as long as what you are doing does no harm to anyone in any way...live and let live and ENJOY being a sexual creation! :D It's freedom at its finest!




:heart: Jen

[asjairok]

okay i had to read those replies a bunch of times to get it, you type worse than me when im drunk rofl just kidding, but I do see now how that energy does come from the first chakra. Often times I have the strong desire to feel that energy. When I DO feel it it's incredible, I feel balanced..

I guess that's what leads to my desire to ravish girlies and get the talking dirty, whisking them off their feet and whatnot. I suppose it feels 'sick' in a way, but in a good way..

I have always somehow felt this contradiction.. that being involved in those things isn't most karmically pure, but at the same time i would feel completely emasculated and far more SICK than originally if I didn't act like a dominant energy. Thats the yin and yang of male and female, since animals have been on this earth. They flow together, there is masculine and feminine polarity. I have felt like if I'm on the wrong path sometimes doing very devious things (nothing which would ever hurt somebody physically or emotionally, just really devious things like having sex on day one because the connection is so hot and strong, threesomes, massage oil or like i said sex in random places, 'finishing' all over her..)
While I may feel in a very deep sense .. like.. hm.. like im falling to the 'dark side' is the best i can put it.. ever so SUBTLY, at the same time if I picture going through sex with a completely emotional involvement as a female (im guessing that would be karmically pure sex, where there is no 'play' or 'game' of emotion),.. that would be far less fun, invigorating, exciting and satisfying.
I suppose I just have yet to learn.. I am 22.. maybe in a few years I will see more or feel more what is in 'pure' karmic alignment.
:D :scratch: Yes I agree if you feel like it, that is suitable for you :heart: , I thought that you have some problem with it from the first letter of yours? :?: ?
I don't think that emotional sex is this "pure" thing you should seek for :mrgreen: , it is not that different from your spank thing, just without ( and still only if this is your wanted level-since you said that you have problem with your thoughts about spank) same motivation. :roll: motivation-why are you doing it, thoughts-energy about why do you want it, and this is the real area where you achieve this cleaning point. I HOPE you'll understand my bad english