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Dan
Sat Mar 29 2008, 11:08pm
Hey guys,

I've studied a lot of LOA stuff, and the biggest divergence I see among the LOA teachers are how much work or action is needed to become wealthy.

Abraham-Hicks says that you don't need to do anything whatsoever for the money. You could sit at home and manifest it. In fact, you could eat junk food and still never get fat if you think healthy thoughts.

Bob Doyle says that you should just take "inspired action," meaning action that's fun and passionate for you, but also brings you money. James Ray says that they'll take your furniture away while you're sitting around trying to manifest.

Then there's Bob Proctor and Wallace Wattles (Science of Getting Rich) who say that you do need to provide services in return for money, that the money's on the way, but you'll need to trade something. This group of people seem to be the most labor intensive about the LOA.

Where do you guys fall in the "action spectrum?" Do you lean closer to Hicks, or Proctor? Have you been able to manifest much income that didn't require a trade or salary? Thanks.

--Dan

AttractionFactor
Sat Mar 29 2008, 11:32pm
Hi Dan,

Hey guys,

I've studied a lot of LOA stuff, and the biggest divergence I see among the LOA teachers are how much work or action is needed to become wealthy.

Abraham-Hicks says that you don't need to do anything whatsoever for the money. You could sit at home and manifest it. In fact, you could eat junk food and still never get fat if you think healthy thoughts.

Bob Doyle says that you should just take "inspired action," meaning action that's fun and passionate for you, but also brings you money. James Ray says that they'll take your furniture away while you're sitting around trying to manifest.

Then there's Bob Proctor and Wallace Wattles (Science of Getting Rich) who say that you do need to provide services in return for money, that the money's on the way, but you'll need to trade something. This group of people seem to be the most labor intensive about the LOA.

--Dan

That's a lot of outside sources on who to go too for assurance. Quite a long list there, my friend!

There really is one source to get for affirmation, and that''s you. How do you feel about it? And more importantly how do you feel about wealth? That''s your answer because whatever you feel is how you are attracting. If you feel doubt about wealth then you need to start changing how you feel about money. if you want to be wealthy, you got to feel your way to get there.





Where do you guys fall in the "action spectrum?" Do you lean closer to Hicks, or Proctor? Have you been able to manifest much income that didn't require a trade or salary? Thanks.

--Dan


We should only take an action if it feels good. Meaning if you feel doubt, frustration,
pessimism or any negative emotion, then don't take the action. Think another thought
that feels better, and another, until that thought becomes more dominant than your
existing feeling of confusion, before you line up with the action.

I know that sounds too simple, but simplicity is genius! Confusion and hard work is effort.

Steve

New Dawn Rising
Sun Mar 30 2008, 2:25am
"Abraham-Hicks says that you don't need to do anything whatsoever for the money. You could sit at home and manifest it."

This is a mischaracterization of what Abraham teaches about action. Abraham says to take action, but just spend time lining up the energy first, before taking inspired action. Their emphasis is on thinking/vibration/lining-up-energy... but they do not discourage taking action. Not at all.

So what to do if you need to go to a job you don't want to? I've heard Abe counsel people many times - go to the job but line up your energy while you do it. Make the best of it. All the while visualizing what you want to create. Don't get your furniture taken away while you are sitting around trying to manifest!

The biggest difference I see between Abraham and those other teachers is that Abraham brings everything back around to vibration and your relationship with Source. The other teachers are much more superficially oriented - giving you a bunch of instructions on how to manifest this or that, instead of directing you to your own Inner Being.

asjairok
Sun Mar 30 2008, 2:10pm
[i]" The other teachers are much more superficially oriented - giving you a bunch of instructions on how to manifest this or that, instead of directing you to your own Inner Being.
:dance: I agree with that.
I was thinking of this and I think that Universe is going to deliver me way or exact thing by what feel natural to me.

GJDeming
Sun Mar 30 2008, 5:33pm
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Sun Mar 30 2008, 8:42pm
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Chamber
Mon Jul 07 2008, 3:05am
I know this is an old thread but I searched Wallace Wattles to see if he was discussed at all and if most here knew about him.

For those that don't:
Science of getting Rich Audiobook:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... GeDw&hl=en (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7244375627426897440&q=the+science+of+getting+rich&ei=ArhxSKzJJo2g4ALoh7GeDw&hl=en)

Download PDFs of all 3 of his books at the bottom of the page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Wattles

The amount of action you take is the amount you're willing to take. But it must be action in JOY. I know a lot of people are just lazy and not really willing to work. But doing work will bring you what you want a helluva lot faster.

Taking action eventually convinces you...beyond doubt...that you can and WILL have it. It is not the action...but the BELIEF in the action that causes you to manifest it.

That's all "practice" is. You already know how to do anything and everything...we've just forgotten. Physical action or practice is just a means of reminding ourselves we already know how to do it.

We are not here just to 'Be'....we are here to experience the 'process of becoming'.

Theoretically speaking....yes...you can instantaneously manifest something...nothing is out of the realm of possibility. But we as humans are not wired that way. It's all about the process of manifestation.

I know there are some out there who are striving for the ability to manifest things instantly . They completely miss a key element of being human and the human experience. They are fools, and in all honesty are essentially "living by default."

So get off your ass...do something...and have what you want.

Larga vida inspiró la acción!

honestly
Mon Jul 07 2008, 3:15am
Dan,

Just take action when it feels good. Simple. :winking:

I was born to soar beyond the stars!

Dance of Joy
Mon Jul 07 2008, 4:27am
Sometimes the action is just answering the phone! LOL!

asjairok
Mon Jul 07 2008, 7:32am
Hey guys,

I've studied a lot of LOA stuff, and the biggest divergence I see among the LOA teachers are how much work or action is needed to become wealthy.

Abraham-Hicks says that you don't need to do anything whatsoever for the money. You could sit at home and manifest it. In fact, you could eat junk food and still never get fat if you think healthy thoughts.

Bob Doyle says that you should just take "inspired action," meaning action that's fun and passionate for you, but also brings you money. James Ray says that they'll take your furniture away while you're sitting around trying to manifest.

Then there's Bob Proctor and Wallace Wattles (Science of Getting Rich) who say that you do need to provide services in return for money, that the money's on the way, but you'll need to trade something. This group of people seem to be the most labor intensive about the LOA.

Where do you guys fall in the "action spectrum?" Do you lean closer to Hicks, or Proctor? Have you been able to manifest much income that didn't require a trade or salary? Thanks.

--Dan
look, nothing of all of this takes opposite side,
if you're inspired to do it as proctor say-that is your inspired action.
I am eating junk foods, too, healthy foods, junk foods, I look great.
Being yourself brings you to actions that are so naturally taken that you don't even call them actions that much.
You find your way that can be Proctors way, and Proctor has some few points, that are actually not at all in quarrel with who you really are. Esther and Jerry on their side are giving their offer to A LOT of people, so...
I think that everything is going to clarify itself to you with time, you'll get your answers and you will be satisfied with answer that you get as you are unique.
I''ll say: be yourself, you can do nothing after you wish for what you wish for, and than you'll take the actions that you like to take, and some answers will come and actions that you will be inspired to do, and so on , and that's it, you're getting there vibrationally and so on.
I believe one thing now that I have boyfriend, the minute he would go( and that is not going to happen) I would have quickly another one because I planted it in myself. And once I accomplish other things, like great money situation it will be the same, once you get it you get it.
...

asjairok
Mon Jul 07 2008, 7:33am
Where were these furniture thieves when I was moving out of my apartment? Man that would have been nice, rather than carry it all down to the curb myself.
rofl rofl

asjairok
Mon Jul 07 2008, 8:42am
BASHAR ANSWERS TO ONE WOMAN ABOUT HOW YOU COME TO WHAT YOU WANT, WITH DISCUSS OF ACTION

YouTube- Bashar: Finding your Highest Excitement

Chamber
Mon Jul 07 2008, 8:57am
I'm quite fond of action. I like to sweat and get dirty and use my hands to make and build things. It's fun to me.

I believe when you take inspired action, you bind your energy to whatever you're doing.

Making music, painting a picture, or even mowing your lawn. Part of you is now in it.

Twilight
Mon Jul 07 2008, 12:32pm
You're making too much of this. Trust me, you'll KNOW when to take action. Well, to be more specific, the action will sort of take you. It will happen perfectly, just relax and let it. But doing action just to do something is a waste of energy.

AttractionFactor
Mon Jul 07 2008, 2:02pm
Here are some Abe quotes on Action:
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LINE UP ENERGY THEN TAKE ACTION

Hard work is not the path to Well- Being. Feeling good is the path to Well-Being. You don't
create through action; you create through vibration. And then, your vibration calls action from
you. --- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Washington, DC on Saturday, May 7th, 2005
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THINK FIRST THEN TAKE ACTION

As you give thought to your future—your future that may be 10 years; your future that may be 5
years; or your future that is 60 days away—you literally begin prepaving. And then, as you move
into those pre-paved moments, and as that future becomes your present, you fine-tune it by
saying, This, is what I now want. And all of those thoughts that you have put forth about your
future, right down to this moment when you are now intending what action you want to take, will
all fit together to bring you precisely that which you now want to live. --- Abraham
Excerpted from the workshop in “The Law of Attraction, The Basics of the Teachings of Abraham” on
Saturday, July 1st, 2006
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DELIBERATE THOUGHT FIRST BEFORE ACTION

Once you start deliberately offering thought, then you can never offer enough action to keep up
with the thought. Once you access the Energy that creates worlds, a huge vortex comes into place,
and there's just not enough action for you to keep up with that. And so, what you have to do is
visualize every step of the way, envision you happy in the process. Envision things in place,
envision people catching on. Just envision it working. Skip over the how and the where and the
when and the who -- and just stay focused upon the what and the why. --- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in Monterey, CA on Tuesday, March 14th, 2000
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Twilight
Tue Jul 08 2008, 1:52am
Those are great quotes. Action is only the very last step, which brings the about the manifestation.